<span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Dear Jeff,</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Many thanks for your reply!</span><br><br>You can use a sensible heat exchanger model and a series of equations and Type 33 psychrometrics <span style="font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:medium"></span></span>models
- but this gets pretty tricky - especially if condensation occurs.
Nothing is horribly difficult in modeling these systems but using a
model which accounts for all of the possibilities will make it a lot
easier. <br><br><font color="#3333ff">Could you please pass me some relative examples for Heat Recovery ventilation system using</font> a sensible heat exchanger model and a series of equations and Type 33 psychrometrics <span style="font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:medium"></span></span>models<span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">? Or please tell me where could I find some relative examples?<br>
<br>Since I can not find any Examples from TRNSYS/Examples file for that. For a beginner, it is too difficult if no examples.<br><br>Many thanks in advance!</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Br.</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
<br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">wang</span><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/10/12 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br>
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Cc: <br>Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:08:55 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Heat Recovery ventilation system<br><u></u>
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<p><<span style="font-size:medium">Do you mean we must buy TESS HVAC Library for TRNSYS?<br>Is there no other methods to model <span>exhaust air/fresh<br> air </span>Heat Recovery Ventilation System<span> in Simulation Studio? E.g. using </span></span><span style="font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:medium">Equation or other component/Type in Simulation studio?></span></span></p>
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<p>You can use a sensible heat exchanger model and a series of equations and Type 33 psychrometrics <span style="font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:medium"></span></span>models - but this gets pretty tricky - especially if condensation occurs. Nothing is horribly difficult in modeling these systems but using a model which accounts for all of the possibilities will make it a lot easier. Good luck with your study!</p>
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<p>Jeff Thornton</p>
<p><i>President - TESS LLC</i></p>
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<p>On 10/12/2012 4:13 am, 王洋 wrote:</p>
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<div> <span style="font-size:medium">Dear Jeff Thornton,<br><br>Many thanks for your reply!<br><br>Do you mean we must buy TESS HVAC Library for TRNSYS?<br>Is there no other methods to model <span>exhaust air/fresh<br> air </span>Heat Recovery Ventilation System<span> in Simulation Studio? E.g. using </span></span><span style="font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:medium">Equation or other component/Type in Simulation studio?<br>
<br>Many thanks in advance!<br> Br.<br><br>wang</span><br></span></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb;padding-left:1ex"><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Heat Recovery ventilation system (Jeff Thornton)<br><br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>
From: Jeff Thornton <<a href="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">thornton@tess-inc.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br> Cc: <br>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:09:33 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Heat Recovery ventilation system<br><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span>
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<p>There are several heat recovery models in the TESS HVAC Library for TRNSYS. The general descriptions of these models may be downloaded from <a href="http://www.TRNSYS.com" target="_blank">www.TRNSYS.com</a> by following the TESS Libraries link.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:medium"><i class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> 1. Modifying connection line properties ? (Santeri Siren)<br> 2. Re: Modifying connection line properties ? (Angel Carrera)<br>
3. Re: Fwd: Converging error (??)<br><br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>From: Santeri Siren <<a href="mailto:santeri.siren1@gmail.com" target="_blank">santeri.siren1@gmail.com</a>><br> To: "trnsys käyttäjät" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
Cc: <br>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:46:29 +0300<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Modifying connection line properties ?<br> Dear users,<br><br>is there a way to modify the properties (e.g. change color or weight) of multiple connection lines between components at the same time. It takes a lot of time to change line properties one at a time. <br>
<br>best regards,<br><br>Santeri Siren<br><br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>From: Angel Carrera <<a href="mailto:angel.carrera@aiguasol.coop" target="_blank">angel.carrera@aiguasol.coop</a>><br>To: Santeri Siren <<a href="mailto:santeri.siren1@gmail.com" target="_blank">santeri.siren1@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: "trnsys käyttäjät" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:08:48 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Modifying connection line properties ?<br>
<br>Dear Santeri,<br><br>right-click on a connection with the style you wish to copy and choose and choose "copy style". Them, you can copy this to another line just right-clicking on it and selecting "apply style"<br>
<br>Angel<br><br></i></span></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/10/10 Santeri Siren <span><<a href="mailto:santeri.siren1@gmail.com" target="_blank">santeri.siren1@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear users,<br><br>is there a way to modify the properties (e.g. change color or weight) of multiple connection lines between components at the same time. It takes a lot of time to change line properties one at a time. <br>
<br>best regards,<br><br>Santeri Siren<br><br>_______________________________________________<br> TRNSYS-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br><a href="https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users" target="_blank">https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><br>
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<br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>From: 王洋 <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>><br>To: hotline <<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><br>
Cc: trnsys-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:37:23 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Fwd: Converging error<br>Dear Marion,<br>
<br>Many thanks for your patient reply!<br><br>1) I use TRNSYS 16, there is no TSGRD in TYPE 56.<br>2) The height over sea level of Default is 0 m I used.<br>3) You are right. I tried to use *.tm2 weather data, this Error disappeared! But my Userdefined weather data is <span style="color:#3333ff">TRN/TRY weather data</span>. Why does it result in aforementioned Errors (Converging error by my past emails)? <br>
If I must use our own<span style="color:#3333ff"> TRN/TRY weather data</span>, how to avoid this Converging error?<br>4) Yes<span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">, The data reader Type 9 is placed after the building <span style="color:#000000">now</span> for my simulation.</span></span>, Do you mean Type 9 should be placed before the Building Type 56? Is Better?<br>
<br>Many thanks in advance!<br><br> Br.<br><br>wang<br><br></i></span></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/10/10 hotline <span><<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dear Wang,<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">there are several issues within your simulation concerning the outside longwave exchange of external surfaces<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><span>1.)<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:xx-small"><span style="font:7.0pt"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">You didn’t connect TSGRD such that it is set 0 => If you have no information set it Tamb<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><span>2.)<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:xx-small"><span style="font:7.0pt"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">For Sky temperature calculation with Type 69, you forgot to enter the height above sea level. <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><span>3.)<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:xx-small"><span style="font:7.0pt"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">You read the ambient temperature and the relative air humditiy from a userdefined file by type 9 <br>
instead of using the data from the weather file. <br> This file wasn’t attached, but it might be an error source especially when interpolating incorrect data.<br> For testing, please use the ambient temperature and rel. humidity from the assigned weather file throughout your simulation.<br>
Please check your userdefined data and the outputs of Type 9 WITHOUT connecting them to TYPE 56.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><span>4.)<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:xx-small"><span style="font:7.0pt"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">In addition, please check the component order. The data reader Type 9 is placed after the building.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Marion</span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Von:</span></span></b><span style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial Unicode MS"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">王洋</span></span><span style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 15:31<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>; <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span>hotline<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b> Fwd: Converging error</span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear Marion and TRNSYS Users,<br><br> Thanks for your reply!<br><br> I checked all you mentioned, I can't find any special/abnormal settings. Furthermore, it runs well when the time step is 1 hour. For other steps e.g. 0.1 h, 0.2 h or 0.5 h, it appears that ERROR.<br>
<br> Please help me have a look at the attached project if you are free.<br><br> Many thanks in advance!<br><br> br.<br><br> wang<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> From: </span></span><b><span style="font-family:Arial Unicode MS"><span style="font-weight:bold">王洋</span></span></b> <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: 2012/9/28<br> Subject: Converging error<br> To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>, <a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a><br>
<br><br><br> ---------- <span style="font-family:Arial Unicode MS"><span>已转发邮件</span></span> ----------<br> From: "<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span>hotline<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span>" <<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><br>
To: trnsys-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br> Cc: <br> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:02:00 +0200<br> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Converging error<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">Wang,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy"> </span></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">This problem may occur from incorrect ambient condition settings:</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">Please check the following inputs of Type 56 </span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">1- TAMB</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">2- RELHUMAMB</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">3- TSKY</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">4- TSGRD</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy"> </span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">In addition make sure that in the BUI file the surface</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">-</span></span><span style="color:navy;font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy"> </span></span><span style="color:navy"><span style="color:navy">outside emissitive is ≤ 1</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">If the error presits, we need the complete project to give further advice.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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From: Matt Duffy <<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>><br> To: <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br> Cc: <br> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:04:24 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations??<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Karol,<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I noticed from your listing (*.lst) file that your working directory is located on your computer's desktop directory. This is not recommended due to the potential issues with the Windows OS system and write privleges. I would first try changing your working directory to the ".\MyProjects" directory or in a folder right on the "C:" drive. I am not certain that this is the issue with the TRNEXE, but if the problem persists, please contact your distributor, <a href="mailto:techsupport@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">techsupport@tess-inc.com</a>.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best regards,<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 2012-09-27 03:46, Karol Bandurski wrote:<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear All,<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I try to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set temperature depending on time of day.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">When I run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Only think what appear (many times) in .lst file is<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Notice: More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I will be grateful for any advice!<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I enclose .lst file.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards,<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">------------------------------------------------<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Karol Bandurski MSc.<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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From: "Marion Hiller" <<a href="mailto:hiller@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hiller@transsolar.com</a>><br> To: "karol.bandurski" <<a href="mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl" target="_blank">karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl</a>><br>
Cc: trnsys-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:53:53 +0200<br> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations??<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Karol,</span></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">In general the notice has nothing to do with a frozen TRNEXE.exe,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">it is just an information.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The message indicates that the internal controller for turning on the </span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">integrated heating/cooling has convergence problems and a deadband is applied to promote convergence.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">This may be the case at the moment of turning ON or OFF something.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">After 6 internal iterations a deadband is added to promote convergence.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">If the convergence isn’t reached after 12 iterations a warning is written to the lst/log file.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Regards,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 10:47<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations??</span></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear All,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I try to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set temperature depending on time of day.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">When I run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Only think what appear (many times) in .lst file is</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Notice: More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I will be grateful for any advice!</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Karol Bandurski MSc.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;background:white"><a href="http://www.ee.put.poznan.pl/" target="_blank"><span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Institute of Environmental Engineering</span></span></a></span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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From: "<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span>hotline<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span>" <<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><br> To: trnsys-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
Cc: <br> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:02:00 +0200<br> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Converging error<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">Wang,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">This problem may occur from incorrect ambient condition settings:</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">Please check the following inputs of Type 56 </span></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">1- TAMB</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">4- TSGRD</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">In addition make sure that in the BUI file the surface</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">-</span></span><span style="color:navy;font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy"> </span></span><span style="color:navy"><span style="color:navy">outside emissitive is ≤ 1</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">If the error presits, we need the complete project to give further advice.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Von:</span></span></b><span style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial Unicode MS"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">王洋</span></span><span style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 11:49<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] Converging error</span></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear all,<br><br> I met a converging error when I changed simulation time step 1 hour into 0.1 hour or 0.2 hour or 0.01 hour as follows:<br>
<br> *** Fatal Error at time : 3972.000000<br> Generated by Unit : 56<br> Generated by Type : 56<br> Message : outside temperature of 2(external) wall in zone 1at time 3972.00 not converged!<br>
<br> Please tell me some possible solutions for that if you know. The attached is its Listing File.<br><br> Many thanks in advance!<br> Br.<br><br> wang<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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2. problem with iterations?? (Karol Bandurski)<br><br><br> ---------- </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial Unicode MS"><span>已转发邮件</span></span> ----------<br> From: "R.K. Singh" <<a href="mailto:singh.ramkishore@gmail.com" target="_blank">singh.ramkishore@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br> Cc: <br> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:04:34 +0530<br> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Doctoral Fellowships at TERI University, India <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The last date for application is October 31st, 2012. The details regarding fee, eligibility and other requirements can be accessed through <a href="http://teriuniversity.ac.in/index.php?option=com_program" target="_blank">http://teriuniversity.ac.in/index.php?option=com_program</a> <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></span></p>
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To: <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br> Cc: <br> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:46:49 +0200<br> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations?? <span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear All,</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I try to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set temperature depending on time of day.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">When I run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Only think what appear (many times) in .lst file is</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Notice: More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I will be grateful for any advice!</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I enclose .lst file.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards,</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">------------------------------------------------</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Karol Bandurski MSc.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;background:white"><a href="http://www.ee.put.poznan.pl/" target="_blank"><span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Institute of Environmental Engineering</span></span></a></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span><span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></span></p>
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