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<p><<span style="font-size: medium;">Do you mean we must buy TESS HVAC Library for TRNSYS?<br />Is there no other methods to model <span>exhaust air/fresh<br /> air </span>Heat Recovery Ventilation System<span> in Simulation Studio? E.g. using </span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Equation or other component/Type in Simulation studio?></span></span></p>
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<p>You can use a sensible heat exchanger model and a series of equations and Type 33 psychrometrics <span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: medium;"></span></span>models - but this gets pretty tricky - especially if condensation occurs. Nothing is horribly difficult in modeling these systems but using a model which accounts for all of the possibilities will make it a lot easier. Good luck with your study!</p>
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<p>On 10/12/2012 4:13 am, 王洋 wrote:</p>
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<div> <span style="font-size: medium;">Dear Jeff Thornton,<br /><br />Many thanks for your reply!<br /><br />Do you mean we must buy TESS HVAC Library for TRNSYS?<br />Is there no other methods to model <span>exhaust air/fresh<br /> air </span>Heat Recovery Ventilation System<span> in Simulation Studio? E.g. using </span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Equation or other component/Type in Simulation studio?<br /><br />Many thanks in advance!<br /> Br.<br /><br />wang</span><br /></span></div>
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<p>There are several heat recovery models in the TESS HVAC Library for TRNSYS. The general descriptions of these models may be downloaded from <a href="http://www.TRNSYS.com">www.TRNSYS.com</a> by following the TESS Libraries link.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><em class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><br /> 1. Modifying connection line properties ? (Santeri Siren)<br /> 2. Re: Modifying connection line properties ? (Angel Carrera)<br /> 3. Re: Fwd: Converging error (??)<br /><br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br />From: Santeri Siren <<a href="mailto:santeri.siren1@gmail.com">santeri.siren1@gmail.com</a>><br /> To: "trnsys käyttäjät" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br /> Cc: <br />Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:46:29 +0300<br />Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Modifying connection line properties ?<br /> Dear users,<br /><br />is there a way to modify the properties (e.g. change color or weight) of multiple connection lines between components at the same time. It takes a lot of time to change line properties one at a time. <br /><br />best regards,<br /><br />Santeri Siren<br /><br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br />From: Angel Carrera <<a href="mailto:angel.carrera@aiguasol.coop">angel.carrera@aiguasol.coop</a>><br />To: Santeri Siren <<a href="mailto:santeri.siren1@gmail.com">santeri.siren1@gmail.com</a>><br /> Cc: "trnsys käyttäjät" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br />Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:08:48 +0200<br />Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Modifying connection line properties ?<br /><br />Dear Santeri,<br /><br />right-click on a connection with the style you wish to copy and choose and choose "copy style". Them, you can copy this to another line just right-clicking on it and selecting "apply style"<br /><br />Angel<br /><br /></em></span></p>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">Dear users,<br /><br />is there a way to modify the properties (e.g. change color or weight) of multiple connection lines between components at the same time. It takes a lot of time to change line properties one at a time. <br /><br />best regards,<br /><br />Santeri Siren<br /><br />_______________________________________________<br /> TRNSYS-users mailing list<br /><a href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /><a href="https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users">https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><br /><br /></blockquote>
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<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><em class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><br /><br clear="all" /><br />-- <br /><span style="color: #006600; font-size: medium;"><strong>Àngel Carrera</strong></span><br style="color: #006600;" /><br style="color: #006600;" /><strong style="color: #006600;">Consultor Senior<br /> Àrea tècnica</strong><br style="color: #006600;" /><img src="cid:aac932ab6def7c6fe16f5c95d32d1bbc@tess-inc.com" &_id=43684509950784dd9ee5ab" alt="" /><br /><span style="color: #009900;">Sistemes Avançats d'Energia Solar Tèrmica SCCL</span><br style="color: #009900;" /><span style="color: #009900;">C/ Roger de Llúria, 29 3r 2a 08009 Barcelona</span><br /><span style="color: #009900;">Mòbil</span>: <span style="color: #009900;"><a>(+34) 663 27 66 80</a></span><br style="color: #009900;" /><span style="color: #009900;">Tel: <a>(+34) 93 342 47 55 Ext:2015</a><br /> Fax: <a>(+34) 93 342 47 56</a></span><br /><span style="color: #888888;"><br /><a href="mailto:angel.carrera@aiguasol.coop">angel.carrera@aiguasol.coop</a><br /><a href="http://www.aiguasol.coop/">http://www.aiguasol.coop</a></span><br /><br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br />From: 王洋 <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>><br />To: hotline <<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><br /> Cc: trnsys-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br />Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:37:23 +0200<br />Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Fwd: Converging error<br />Dear Marion,<br /><br />Many thanks for your patient reply!<br /><br />1) I use TRNSYS 16, there is no TSGRD in TYPE 56.<br />2) The height over sea level of Default is 0 m I used.<br />3) You are right. I tried to use *.tm2 weather data, this Error disappeared! But my Userdefined weather data is <span style="color: #3333ff;">TRN/TRY weather data</span>. Why does it result in aforementioned Errors (Converging error by my past emails)? <br /> If I must use our own<span style="color: #3333ff;"> TRN/TRY weather data</span>, how to avoid this Converging error?<br />4) Yes<span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">, The data reader Type 9 is placed after the building <span style="color: #000000;">now</span> for my simulation.</span></span>, Do you mean Type 9 should be placed before the Building Type 56? Is Better?<br /><br />Many thanks in advance!<br /><br /> Br.<br /><br />wang<br /><br /></em></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span>1.)<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font: 7.0pt;"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">You didn’t connect TSGRD such that it is set 0 => If you have no information set it Tamb<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span>2.)<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font: 7.0pt;"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">For Sky temperature calculation with Type 69, you forgot to enter the height above sea level. <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span>3.)<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font: 7.0pt;"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">You read the ambient temperature and the relative air humditiy from a userdefined file by type 9 <br /> instead of using the data from the weather file. <br /> This file wasn’t attached, but it might be an error source especially when interpolating incorrect data.<br /> For testing, please use the ambient temperature and rel. humidity from the assigned weather file throughout your simulation.<br /> Please check your userdefined data and the outputs of Type 9 WITHOUT connecting them to TYPE 56.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span>4.)<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font: 7.0pt;"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">In addition, please check the component order. The data reader Type 9 is placed after the building.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;">王洋</span></span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>] <br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></strong> Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 15:31<br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>; <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span>hotline<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></strong> Fwd: Converging error</span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Dear Marion and TRNSYS Users,<br /><br /> Thanks for your reply!<br /><br /> I checked all you mentioned, I can't find any special/abnormal settings. Furthermore, it runs well when the time step is 1 hour. For other steps e.g. 0.1 h, 0.2 h or 0.5 h, it appears that ERROR.<br /><br /> Please help me have a look at the attached project if you are free.<br /><br /> Many thanks in advance!<br /><br /> br.<br /><br /> wang<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br /> From: </span></span><strong><span style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">王洋</span></span></strong> <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>><br /> Date: 2012/9/28<br /> Subject: Converging error<br /> To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>, <a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com">hotline@transsolar.com</a><br /><br /><br /><br /> ---------- <span style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS;"><span>已转发邮件</span></span> ----------<br /> From: "<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span>hotline<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span>" <<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><br /> To: trnsys-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br /> Cc: <br /> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:02:00 +0200<br /> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Converging error<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">This problem may occur from incorrect ambient condition settings:</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">Please check the following inputs of Type 56 </span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">1- TAMB</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">2- RELHUMAMB</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">4- TSGRD</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">In addition make sure that in the BUI file the surface</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">-</span></span><span style="color: navy; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font-size: 7.0pt; color: navy;"> </span></span><span style="color: navy;"><span style="color: navy;">outside emissitive is ≤ 1</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">If the error presits, we need the complete project to give further advice.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Karol,<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I noticed from your listing (*.lst) file that your working directory is located on your computer's desktop directory. This is not recommended due to the potential issues with the Windows OS system and write privleges. I would first try changing your working directory to the ".\MyProjects" directory or in a folder right on the "C:" drive. I am not certain that this is the issue with the TRNEXE, but if the problem persists, please contact your distributor, <a href="mailto:techsupport@tess-inc.com">techsupport@tess-inc.com</a>.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Best regards,<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">On 2012-09-27 03:46, Karol Bandurski wrote:<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Dear All,<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I try to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set temperature depending on time of day.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">When I run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Only think what appear (many times) in .lst file is<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Notice: More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I will be grateful for any advice!<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I enclose .lst file.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Regards,<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">------------------------------------------------<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Karol Bandurski MSc.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Karol,</span></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">In general the notice has nothing to do with a frozen TRNEXE.exe,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">it is just an information.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">The message indicates that the internal controller for turning on the </span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">integrated heating/cooling has convergence problems and a deadband is applied to promote convergence.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">This may be the case at the moment of turning ON or OFF something.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">After 6 internal iterations a deadband is added to promote convergence.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">If the convergence isn’t reached after 12 iterations a warning is written to the lst/log file.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Regards,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Karol Bandurski [mailto:<a href="mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl">karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl</a>] <br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></strong> Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 10:47<br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></strong> [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations??</span></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri;">Dear All,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri;">I try to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set temperature depending on time of day.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri;">When I run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri;">Only think what appear (many times) in .lst file is</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri;">Notice: More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri;">I will be grateful for any advice!</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri;">I enclose .lst file.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri;">Karol Bandurski MSc.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri; background: white;"><a href="http://www.ee.put.poznan.pl/"><span><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;">Institute of Environmental Engineering</span></span></a></span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri; background: white;">Poznan</span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="background: white;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span>University<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="background: white;"> of Technology</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">Wang,</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">This problem may occur from incorrect ambient condition settings:</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">Please check the following inputs of Type 56 </span></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">1- TAMB</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">4- TSGRD</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">In addition make sure that in the BUI file the surface</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt;"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">-</span></span><span style="color: navy; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font-size: 7.0pt; color: navy;"> </span></span><span style="color: navy;"><span style="color: navy;">outside emissitive is ≤ 1</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">If the error presits, we need the complete project to give further advice.</span></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;">王洋</span></span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>] <br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></strong> Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 11:49<br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></strong> [TRNSYS-users] Converging error</span></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Dear all,<br /><br /> I met a converging error when I changed simulation time step 1 hour into 0.1 hour or 0.2 hour or 0.01 hour as follows:<br /> <br /> *** Fatal Error at time : 3972.000000<br /> Generated by Unit : 56<br /> Generated by Type : 56<br /> Message : outside temperature of 2(external) wall in zone 1at time 3972.00 not converged!<br /><br /> Please tell me some possible solutions for that if you know. The attached is its Listing File.<br /><br /> Many thanks in advance!<br /> Br.<br /><br /> wang<br /><br /><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">The last date for application is October 31st, 2012. The details regarding fee, eligibility and other requirements can be accessed through <a href="http://teriuniversity.ac.in/index.php?option=com_program">http://teriuniversity.ac.in/index.php?option=com_program</a> <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">For any further details please get in touch with Dr. Sapna A Narula, Associate Professor </span></span><span style="font-family: Helv; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: Helv;"><a href="mailto:sapna.narula@teriuniversity.ac.in">sapna.narula@teriuniversity.ac.in</a>. </span></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">***********************************************<br /> Dr. Ramkishore Singh<br /> Department of Energy & Environment<br /> TERI University<br /> Tel: 91-11-26122222, Ext. 1302<br /> Fax: 91-11-26122874<br /> Web: <a href="http://www.teriuniversity.ac.in">www.teriuniversity.ac.in</a><br /> ***********************************************<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> ---------- </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial Unicode MS;"><span>已转发邮件</span></span> ----------<br /> From: "Karol Bandurski" <<a href="mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl">karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl</a>><br /> To: <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br /> Cc: <br /> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:46:49 +0200<br /> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations?? <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Dear All,</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I try to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set temperature depending on time of day.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">When I run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Only think what appear (many times) in .lst file is</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Notice: More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I will be grateful for any advice!</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I enclose .lst file.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Regards,</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">------------------------------------------------</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Karol Bandurski MSc.</span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; background: white;"><a href="http://www.ee.put.poznan.pl/"><span><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;">Institute of Environmental Engineering</span></span></a></span><span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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