<br>Dear Mr. Adrien,<br><br>Many thanks for your quick reply!<br>Did you put a lower ACH for the simulation already? After that, the cooling system works fine? I did. I set the ACH from 2.0 to 0.5 1/h, however, Qcool is still 0, in addition, Tair_room in summer is up to 33/34 °C. It means the cooling system is still not working after reducing the ACH of ventilation system.<br>
So I think it is not reason of ventilation system. I guess there is something wrong with the cooling system in TRNSYS. But I still can't find the solution. <br>Please give us some suggestions for that! I don't know why there are so many bugs or problems in TRNSYS although it has been a mature BES tool.<br>
<br>Many thanks in advance!<br><br>Br.<br>wang <br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/18 Adrien JEZEQUEL - ITF <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.jezequel@itf.biz" target="_blank">a.jezequel@itf.biz</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Hi wang,<br>
        <br>
        i check your ventilation system.<br>
      </font></font>
    <ul>
      <li><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Airchange of ventilation :
            2.75 Vol/h when your building is used</font></font></li>
      <li><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Temperature : 17 °C in
            summer</font></font></li>
    </ul>
    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">With 2.75 Vol/h at 17°C in your
        thermal zone, this is normal that Qcool is equal to 0 since your
        air is only refreshed by your ventilation system! Your cooling
        system is not used!<br>
        Try to put a lower airflowrate, you will see that cooling system
        is then used and works fine.<br>
        <br>
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    Le 18/06/2012 12:40, 王洋 a écrit :
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      Dear Mr. Adrien,<br>
      <br>
      Many thanks for your patient and careful answers!<br>
      <br>
      You are right!<br>
      <font color="#3366ff">Set point for cooling is 26°C in your model.
        The problem comes from your ventilation system : Temperature of
        air flow = 17°C in summer. So your ventilation system cools your
        thermal zone</font>.<font color="#3366ff">. Your cooling system
        is then shunted since Tair < 26°C, that's why you obtain
        QCool = 0. i advice you to adjust your air flow temperature.</font>
      <br>
      Due to the lower set temperature of ventilation in summer, the
      Qcool = 0. Since 17 °C is our design standard, so generally it
      can't be adjusted. In addition, I found there is another Weird
      phenomenon about Qcool and Tcool. I adjust Tcool based on your
      suggestion and Equation (<font size="4"><font face="Arial">Tcool =
          35 - 9 * Summer </font></font>). I change it into e.g. <font size="4"><font face="Arial">Tcool = 35 - 8/10/11.../25 * Summer
          etc.</font></font>, but Tcool doesn't work i.e. Tair_room is
      keeping the same temperature (please see the 1st attached on line
      plotter) in all the set point Tcool situatuins (27/25/24.../10
      °C), therefore, Qcool is 0 all the time. I checked and adjusted
      many times for this simulation. It also exists this problem. It
      made me drive the nuts.<br>
      <br>
      If you are free, please help me have a look the program and give
      me some solutions or advices. Pleasae see the 2nd and 3rd
      attached.<br>
      <br>
      Many thanks in advance! I'm very appreciated for all your help!<br>
      <br>
      Br.<br>
      wang<br>
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            Le 13/06/2012 12:58, 王洋 a écrit :
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              <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4">Dear Adrien
                  JEZEQUEL,<br>
                  <br>
                  Many thanks for your patient reply and checking for my
                  programs.<br>
                  <br>
                  You are right. The problem is indeed Internal Gains. I
                  define a Schedule based on your advice. After running,
                  it seems better than the previous. However, there are
                  some unreasonable situations. Please see the Attached
                  image.<br>
                  1. Tair and Top are higher than the set point 21 °C in
                  winter all the time. Tair is closed to 23 °C
                  basically, and it is only 21 °C when no occupancy. I
                  guess the reason is the compensation of internal gains
                  and mechanical ventilation.<br>
                </font></blockquote>
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            <font color="#3366ff">In winter your Tair is equal at least
              at Tset heat (21°C in your model). Temperatures grow up
              due to solar and internal heat gains, that's why you
              obtain Tair > 21°C in winter.</font>
            <div><br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4"> Do you have some
                  solutions to make sure that the set point is 21 °C in
                  winter?<br>
                </font></blockquote>
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            <font color="#3366ff">check Tair without internal heat gain
              and solar gain to be sure that your thermal zone is heated
              at 21°C.</font>
            <div><br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4"><br>
                  2.Tair and Top are lower than the set point 26 °C in
                  summer all the time. The maximal is only 25.4 °C. I
                  guess the reason is due to the influence of mechanical
                  ventilation, and only a few hot days (Toutdoor>26
                  °C) in summer.<br>
                  I would like to ensure that the set point is 26 °C in
                  summer. Do you have some solutions to that problem?
                  Only reduce air change rate of mechanical ventilation?
                  Anything else?<br>
                </font></blockquote>
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            <font color="#3366ff">Set point for cooling is 26°C in your
              model. The problem comes from your ventilation system :
              Temperature of air flow = 17°C in summer. So your
              ventilation system cools your thermal zone</font>.<font color="#3366ff">. Your cooling system is then shunted
              since Tair < 26°C, that's why you obtain QCool = 0. i
              advice you to adjust your air flow temperature.<br>
            </font>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4"> <br>
                  3.Qinf and Qvent are different all over the year
                  although the infiltration rate and ventilation rate
                  settings are the same all over the year. I think Since
                  the weather conditions especially outdoor temperature,
                  wind direction and wind velocity are different all
                  over the year. Am I right?<br>
                </font></blockquote>
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            <font color="#3366ff">Yes, you are right. But it's very
              difficult to take into account accuracy airflows due to
              infiltration rate, since this is generaly due in one hand
              to imperfections and in other hand, as you say, to local
              situation : you have to estimate wind velocity and
              direction near your building, then, calculate pressure
              coefficient on each elements of your facade, and then
              approach your infiltration rate with a law like m' = C.dp.<sup>n</sup>.
              You may find some litteratures from Martin Liddament but
              in first approximation, I advice you to take a constant
              value equal to 1/20eme airflowrate obtain under 50Pa which
              seems to be perfect for energy studies.</font>
            <div><br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4"> <br>
                  4. Based on Energy_zone.BAL file, Qcool is 0 all the
                  time. Do you have some ideas? I think it is due to
                  mechanical ventilation and only a few hot days
                  (Toutdoor>26 °C) in summer. Anything else reasons?<br>
                </font></blockquote>
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            <font color="#3366ff">See point 2.</font>
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              <div><br>
                <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4"><br>
                    Many thanks in advance!<br>
                    <br>
                    Br.<br>
                    <br>
                    wang</font><br>
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                    JEZEQUEL <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.jezequel@itf.biz" target="_blank">a.jezequel@itf.biz</a>></span><br>
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Dear Wang,
                        <div><br>
                          <br>
                          You are right : the Tcool I gave you was equal
                          to 26, not to 24°C. Tset value is not
                          important as well, the most important is that
                          you understand how to do to define Tset.<br>
                          In your model, your heating and cooling
                          advices seem to work fine. Your problem comes
                          frome your internal gain : 31 people are
                          defined all the time in a room of
                          approximatively 80 m², without schedule. <br>
                          Because of your important internal gains, air
                          temperature increases until 35°C in winter.
                          Then air temperature is refreshed because
                          Tcool = 35°C in winter.<br>
                        </div>
                        In summer, air is cooled at 24°C, because this
                        is the temperature you define in your cooling
                        advice.
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                          <br>
                          Best regards<br>
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                        Le 12/06/2012 18:19, 王洋 a écrit :
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                            <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4">Dear
                                Adrien Jezequel,<br>
                                <br>
                                Thanks for your quick reply!<br>
                              </font><font size="4"><font face="Arial">Tcool
                                  = 35 - 9 * Summer </font></font><font size="4">means</font><font size="4"> if
                                in summer, Tcool = 26 °C?<br>
                                <br>
                                I tried </font><font size="4">to run
                                the simulation based on your solution</font><font size="4"><font face="Arial"> Tcool = 35
                                  - 9 * Summer</font>, the result is
                                also like the last Attached.<br>
                                Oppositely, </font><font size="4"><font face="Arial">it is not my heating
                                  system seems to work all the time, it
                                  is my cooling</font></font><font size="4"><font face="Arial"> system
                                  seems to work all the time</font>.<br>
                                I set internal gains all the year.<br>
                                <br>
                                Please see the Attached *.tpf and *.bui
                                files, if you have free time , please
                                help me have a look and give me some
                                solutions.<br>
                                <br>
                                Many thanks in advance!<br>
                                <br>
                                Br.<br>
                                <br>
                                wang</font><br>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/12 ITF -
                                Adrien JEZEQUEL <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.jezequel@itf.biz" target="_blank">a.jezequel@itf.biz</a>></span><br>
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                                    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Or
                                        sorry, I made a mistake in my
                                        previous mail :<br>
                                      </font></font>
                                    <ul>
                                      <li><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Tcool = 35 - 9
                                            * Summer (instead of
                                            35*winter  - 9*summer) <br>
                                          </font></font></li>
                                    </ul>
                                    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Regarding

                                        your heating system it may be
                                        something like :<br>
                                      </font></font>
                                    <ul>
                                      <li><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Theat =
                                            21*Winter</font></font></li>
                                    </ul>
                                    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Regarding

                                        your attached picture, your
                                        heating system seems to work all
                                        the time. <br>
                                        In summer, either you cool at
                                        21°C, either there is no
                                        internal gains defined, and you
                                        heat at 21°C.<br>
                                        Check your differents inputs.<br>
                                        You can procede step by step
                                        (internal gain = 0, ventilation
                                        = 0, infiltration rate = 0...)
                                        to see the influence of each
                                        parameters in your model to
                                        catch your issue.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Best regards<br>
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                                    Le 12/06/2012 17:47, 王洋 a écrit :
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                                        <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4">Dear Adrien
                                            Jezequel,<br>
                                            <br>
                                          </font><font color="#000000" size="4">Many thanks!</font><font size="4"><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
                                          </font>
                                          <p style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><font size="4">I think you'd
                                              better put for cooling
                                              temperatures <br>
                                            </font> </p>
                                          <font size="4"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
                                            </span></font>
                                          <ul style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
                                            <li><font size="4">35°C in
                                                winter (no cool) -
                                                heating temperature at
                                                21°C<br>
                                              </font> </li>
                                            <li><font size="4">24°C in
                                                summer</font></li>
                                          </ul>
                                          <font size="4"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
                                              which may be translated in
                                              an equation tool by
                                              something like :</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
                                            <span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
                                            </span></font>
                                          <ul style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
                                            <li><font size="4">summer =
GE(TIME,2162)*LT(TIME,6552)</font></li>
                                            <li><font size="4">winter =
                                                1 - summer<br>
                                              </font> </li>
                                            <li><font size="4">Tcool =
                                                35*Winter - 9*Summer</font></li>
                                          </ul>
                                          <font size="4">For <span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Tcool
                                              = 35*Winter - 9*Summer</span>,
                                            do you mean if in winter,
                                            Tcool = 35 °C, so Cooling
                                            doesn't work ; if in summer,
                                            Tcool = -9°C or 24 °C?<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Meanwhile, another weird
                                            phenomena appear: After
                                            running based on your
                                            solution in winter, indoor
                                            temperature becomes 35 °C
                                            also not 21 °C, although I
                                            set heating temperature as
                                            21 °C; in summer, however,
                                            indoor temperature becomes
                                            21 °C. Please see the
                                            Attached On-Line Plotter
                                            image.<br>
                                            Furthermore, when I create
                                            another Tcool equation as <span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">35*winter+24*summer</span>, the result is
                                            also like the Attached
                                            On-Line Plotter image.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Please give me some
                                            solutions or advices! <br>
                                            I think the point how to set
                                            that Cooling doesn't work in
                                            winter? The possible reason
                                            of that problem is that I
                                            also set a Mechanical
                                            Ventilation in winter
                                            (Tset=19 °C) and summer </font><font size="4">(Tset=17 °C). I
                                            guess Maybe </font><font size="4">the Mechanical
                                            Ventilation will influence
                                            on Cooling and heating?</font><br>
                                          <font size="4"><br>
                                            Many thanks in advance!<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Br.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            wang  </font><br>
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                                                2. Re: weird Qcool (ITF
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                                              Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012
                                              15:26:28 +0200<br>
                                              Subject: Re:
                                              [TRNSYS-users] weird Qcool<br>
                                              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Dear
                                                    Wang,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    As far as I
                                                    understand, the
                                                    cooling set
                                                    temperature you
                                                    define in your model
                                                    is :<br>
                                                  </font></font>
                                                <ul>
                                                  <li><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">24°C
                                                        in summer, which
                                                        seems to be
                                                        correct</font></font></li>
                                                  <li><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">and
                                                        0°C in winter...
                                                        which seems to
                                                        be wrong, since
                                                        you don't
                                                        refresh your
                                                        thermal zone at
                                                        0°C in winter!<br>
                                                      </font></font></li>
                                                </ul>
                                                T<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">hat's
                                                    why you obtain huge
                                                    cooling loads.<br>
                                                    BAL_ENERGY is not 0
                                                    because you heat and
                                                    cool in the same
                                                    time in winter.<br>
                                                  </font></font>
                                                <p>I think you'd better
                                                  put for cooling
                                                  temperatures <br>
                                                </p>
                                                <ul>
                                                  <li>35°C in winter (no
                                                    cool) - heating
                                                    temperature at 21°C<br>
                                                  </li>
                                                  <li>24°C in summer</li>
                                                </ul>
                                                which may be translated
                                                in an equation tool by
                                                something like :<br>
                                                <ul>
                                                  <li>summer =
                                                    GE(TIME,2162)*LT(TIME,6552)</li>
                                                  <li>winter = 1 -
                                                    summer<br>
                                                  </li>
                                                  <li>Tcool = 35*Winter
                                                    - 9*Summer</li>
                                                </ul>
                                                <p>Best regards<br>
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                                                Le 12/06/2012 14:55, 王洋
                                                a écrit :
                                                <blockquote type="cite"><font size="4">Dear all,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    I make a simulation.
                                                    The cooling set
                                                    temperature is
                                                    24*Summer schedule
                                                    (2162 h to 6552 h),
                                                    The heating set
                                                    temperature is
                                                    21*Winter schedule
                                                    (the rest hours).
                                                    After running,
                                                    however, it appears
                                                    WEIRD phenomenon.
                                                    Please see the
                                                    ATTACHED
                                                    Energy_zone.BAL
                                                    file. During the
                                                    winter period, there
                                                    are Qcools and Qcool
                                                    is very large up to
                                                    47000 kJ. And then
                                                    it results in wrong
                                                    BAL_ENERG, it is not
                                                    0.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Please give me some
                                                    advices and
                                                    solutions to that!<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Many thanks in
                                                    advance!<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Br.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    wang  </font><br>
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                                                           (<a href="mailto:jose.gonzalez@imdea.org" target="_blank">jose.gonzalez@imdea.org</a>)<br>
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                                                        3. type666
                                                      (Andr?s Montero)<br>
                                                        4. Type 673
                                                      heating problem
                                                      (Santeri Siren)<br>
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                                                      Date: Mon, 11 Jun
                                                      2012 16:07:28
                                                      +0200 (CEST)<br>
                                                      Subject: Re:
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                                                      TRNSYS-users
                                                      Digest, Vol 90,
                                                      Issue 21<br>
                                                      I am out of the
                                                      office from
                                                      Monday, June 11 to
                                                      Friday, June 15
                                                      and unable to
                                                      respond at this
                                                      time.<br>
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                                                      For any urgent
                                                      matters, please
                                                      contact Dr. Manuel
                                                      Romero (<a href="http://manuel.romero_at_imdea.org" target="_blank">manuel.romero_at_imdea.org</a>).<br>
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                                                      Thank you for your
                                                      understanding.<br>
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                                                      Best regards,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      José
                                                      Gonzalez-Aguilar<br>
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                                                      2012 14:10:47 GMT<br>
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                                                      I will be out of
                                                      the office from
                                                      June 8 - 23 on a
                                                      backpacking trip
                                                      with my son and
                                                      his Venture Crew
                                                      at Philmont Scout
                                                      Ranch in New
                                                      Mexico. I will not
                                                      have access to
                                                      email or phone
                                                      service while I am
                                                      gone, but I will
                                                      reply to your
                                                      message as soon as
                                                      possible after I
                                                      return to the
                                                      office on Monday,
                                                      June 25th.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Thank you for your
                                                      patience,<br>
                                                      Mark Thornbloom<br>
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                                                      Date: Mon, 11 Jun
                                                      2012 16:57:30
                                                      +0200<br>
                                                      Subject: [TRNSYS-users]

                                                      type666<br>
                                                      Dear Trnsys users,
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>In order to
                                                        simulate a
                                                        water-cooled
                                                        chiller, first I
                                                        need to create
                                                        the 2 external
                                                        files for this
                                                        component. </div>
                                                      <div>I'm trying to
                                                        find some
                                                        catalogues with
                                                        information of a
                                                        40 to 45 kW
                                                        water-cooled
                                                        chiller but the
                                                        web pages I run
                                                        into it, ask me
                                                        to register, but
                                                        I'm still
                                                        waiting the
                                                        username and
                                                        pasword. Does
                                                        anyone has a
                                                        catalgoue with
                                                        this type of
                                                        info regarding
                                                        this cooling
                                                        capacity
                                                        machine?</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Best regards,</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Andrés<br clear="all">
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        -- <br>
                                                        Andrés Montero
                                                        I.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                      </div>
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                                                      From: Santeri
                                                      Siren <<a href="mailto:santeri.siren1@gmail.com" target="_blank">santeri.siren1@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                      To: "trnsys
                                                      käyttäjät" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
                                                      Cc: <br>
                                                      Date: Mon, 11 Jun
                                                      2012 19:56:40
                                                      +0300<br>
                                                      Subject: [TRNSYS-users]
                                                      Type 673 heating
                                                      problem<br>
                                                      Dear all,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      I cant make
                                                      type673 heating
                                                      mode to work.
                                                      Cooling mode works
                                                      just fine but when
                                                      I change the
                                                      cooling control
                                                      signal to 0 and
                                                      heating control
                                                      signal to 1 it
                                                      doesnt work
                                                      anymore. When the
                                                      heating mode is
                                                      used nothing
                                                      happens. Does
                                                      anyone know why?<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Best regards,<br>
                                                      Santeri Siren<br>
                                                      <br>
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                                              To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                              Cc: <br>
                                              Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012
                                              16:05:51 +0200<br>
                                              Subject: [TRNSYS-users]
                                              Flue gas stack in TRNSYS<br>
                                              <div>Hello everyone ,</div>
                                              <div> </div>
                                              <div>Is there a way to
                                                model a flue gas stack
                                                in TRNSYS , i need to
                                                recirculate hot air and
                                                flue gases from the
                                                economizer in an HRSG
                                                back to a solar tower .</div>
                                              <div> </div>
                                              <div>i appreciate your
                                                ideas.</div>
                                              <div> </div>
                                              <div>Mazen Darwish</div>
                                              <div>KTH Royal Institute
                                                of Technology</div>
                                              <div>Department of Energy
                                                Technology </div>
                                              <div>Brinellvägen 68,
                                                SE-100 44 Stockholm,
                                                Sweden</div>
                                              <div>Mobile: <a href="tel:%2B46-%280%29-723%2008%2018%2093" value="+46723081893" target="_blank">+46-(0)-723
                                                  08 18 93</a> </div>
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                                              Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012
                                              14:23:03 GMT<br>
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                                              Digest, Vol 90, Issue 23<br>
                                              <br>
                                              I will be out of the
                                              office from June 8 - 23 on
                                              a backpacking trip with my
                                              son and his Venture Crew
                                              at Philmont Scout Ranch in
                                              New Mexico. I will not
                                              have access to email or
                                              phone service while I am
                                              gone, but I will reply to
                                              your message as soon as
                                              possible after I return to
                                              the office on Monday, June
                                              25th.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Thank you for your
                                              patience,<br>
                                              Mark Thornbloom<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
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