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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Dear Pauline,<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I had a quick look at your questions.<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>also appeal to you about another problem I have with
each project on TRNSYS. <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>When I define a set temperature at a specific time (eg
20 ° C at 7am), the temperature zones does not reach 20 ° C at 7am but an hour
later. <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>It seems that, at 7 am, the temperature is rather than
the average value between the past temperature and the set temperature.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Do you have an explanation and above all a solution to
this?<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:
l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Wingdings><span
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style='mso-list:Ignore'>è<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
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lang=EN-GB>I assume you mean the heating of TRNbuild. If you define a heating
set point of 20 °C at 7am ,this means that the temperature<br>
at the end of the time step is 20 °C. If the temperature at the beginning of
the time step ( 6 am if the tme step is 1h) <br>
is 16 °C then the average temperature of the time step is 18 °C. This average
temperature is the NTYPE 1 (output air temperature).<br>
The temperature at the end of the time is only needed for the heating/Cooling of
type 56 load calculation. Other calculations related <br>
to energy over the time step are based the average temperature.<o:p></o:p></span>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Concerning the definition of a window, we would like
to know if Ug presented in the library already includes convective heat
transfer coefficients (if so what value?) and the standard to which it is
calculated ?<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Wingdings><span
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lang=EN-GB>The Ug values presented in the German library related to products
are the values you can find in the catalog.<br>
This means including including convective + radiative heat transfer
coefficients and are in general measuered under test condition<br>
acc. to a standard. The values are shown such that the user can select a glass according
to published properties.<br>
These values are NOT used during the simulation! Type 56 uses the pane, gap
properties as well as the pacer and frame properties<br>
AND the real temperature conditions to calculate heat transfer through the
window.<o:p></o:p></span>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Concerning values of layers, and especially insulation
materials, it seems that the user library saves only two decimal places for
conductivity. If we specify three digits, the value is rounded and if we add
manually three decimal places in the file (opened by a notepad), only the first
two are considered. </span>How can we fix this?<o:p></o:p></font>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Wingdings><span
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lang=EN-GB>Thanks for insisting. Unfortunately, this has to be solved within
the TRNbuild. It’s now on my list for the next update of TRNbuild.<o:p></o:p></span>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:18.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:18.0pt'><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Marion</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Dipl.-Ing. <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Marion Hiller</st1:PersonName> <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>TRANSSOLAR: KlimaEngineering - Technologien für energieeffizientes
Bauen und Nutzerkomfort in Gebäude <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Munich - New York - <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Stuttgart</st1:PersonName>
+ 49.711.67976.0 <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Transsolar Energietechnik GmbH, Curiestrasse 2, 70563 <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Stuttgart</st1:PersonName> <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Amtsgericht <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Stuttgart</st1:PersonName> - HRB
23347, Steuernummer 99073/00911, USt-IdNr.: DE152272639<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Geschäftsführer: Dipl.Ing. Matthias Schuler, Dipl.Ing. <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Thomas Auer</st1:PersonName>, Dipl.Phys. Stefan Holst, Prof.
Dipl.-Ing. Bleicher <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
Von: Pauline GELIN [mailto:p.gelin@katene.fr] <br>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2012 16:38<br>
An: David BRADLEY; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Matt Duffy</st1:PersonName> <<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">duffy@tess-inc.com</st1:PersonName>> (<st1:PersonName w:st="on">duffy@tess-inc.com</st1:PersonName>);
trnsys-users (<st1:PersonName w:st="on">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</st1:PersonName>)<br>
Cc: Vincent MORELLE; Amélie MARILLER<br>
Betreff: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem of windows and layers definitions</span></font>
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10.0pt'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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