<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">Hi David,</font><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">Thank you for your information!</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">My description is not clear.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">The original statement in input file is:</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">*Assign ***.ou2
</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">In this case, file can not output the output file.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">Thus, we get rid of the first <span style="font-size: 12pt; ">asterisk, to let it become</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">Assign ***.ou2
</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">now, it can output combisys.ou2, we can found the file in the directory,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">but no content can be found in this file, I mean its blank when you open it.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">It confused us,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; ">because the monitor shows the calculation is good, online output shows well,</div><div><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">but no data are </font><font face="'Times New Roman'">wrote</font><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3"> in the file ou2.</font></div><div><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">Thank you again for your answers.</font></div><div><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">Best wishes,</font></div><div><font face="'Times New Roman'"><br></font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; "><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>发件人: </b>"David BRADLEY" <d.bradley@tess-inc.com><br><b>收件人: </b>"Shuai Deng" <deng32@purdue.edu><br><b>抄送: </b>trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu<br><b>发送时间: </b>星期三, 2012年 4 月 11日 上午 3:09:54<br><b>主题: </b>Re: [TRNSYS-users] online plotter in CombiSys<br><br>
Shuai,<br>
The *** syntax is a special code recognized by the TRNSYS input
file processor to mean "append the name of the input file onto the
specified extension"<br>
<br>
before modification of the input file, you should find files called
combisys.ou1, combiSys.ou2, etc.<br>
<br>
By deleting one of the three asterisks the processor now thinks
that the output file names should be:<br>
<br>
**.ou1, **.ou2. It will no longer append the name of the input file
onto the specified extension. <br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
On 4/3/2012 21:38, Shuai Deng wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:1943541463.89462.1333507093187.JavaMail.root@mailhub050.itcs.purdue.edu">
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New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; " face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">Dear all,</font>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: 12pt; "><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">I
downloaded Combisys demo</font> <span style="font-size:
medium; ">and found it is pretty easy to use as an education
tool </span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: 12pt; "><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">to
show the basic operation of solar combi-system.</font></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: 12pt; "><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">I
even discussed with some students in my lesson about the
content of trd file, </font></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: 12pt; "><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">sth
like: how the data transfer between types, and how to add
our cities into the demo to extend its function, </font></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: 12pt; "><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">and
how to add some solar collector types they obtained from
google to the demo. </font></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: 12pt; "><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">To
be honest, I can feel they really like this demo.</font></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: 12pt; "><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">One
of them asked me a question about how to output the results
of two online plotters in the system.</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'" size="3"><font size="3">Actually,
the system, </font>described<font size="3"> in
combisys.trd demo file, contains: </font></font></div>
<div><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; font-size: 12pt; " face="'Times New Roman'" size="3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; font-size: 12pt; " face="'Times New Roman'" size="3">a.
2 online plotters: unit 41, type 65, output file: </font><font face="'Times New Roman'">Assign ***.ou1</font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-size: medium; "> </span></div>
<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; font-size: medium; ">
unit 45, type 65, output file: </span><font face="'Times New
Roman'">Assign ***.ou2</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">They are mainly used for
showing the operation information of the system.</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">In the original content of
combisys.trd file, they are set "no need to output result
file", just used as two "monitors". </font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">b. Unit 51, Type 24, Monthly
Integrator + Unit 52, Type 25, Printer</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">they can be considered as
two partners, and work together to output file: Assign
***.out</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">c. Unit 50 Type 28
Simulation Summary</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">output file: Assign ***.sum</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">The thing is </font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">we remove the "*" before the
output statement "</font><span style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman'; ">Assign ***.ou1</span><span style="font-family:
'Times New Roman'; ">" and ou2 in the related groups of
online plotters, so that the demo can output these two
result files.</span></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">however, we found no data is
in the ou1 and ou2 file, they are blank.</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">and other output files
works.</font></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">So, we did
some assumption analysis ( actually, it likes a simple brain
storm ) about why it happens:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">a. no data
are calculated out by demo: that is not true, because online
plotter works very, both of them. all the performance curves
are shown every calculation step.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">b. online
plotters only show the results, not record the data into
output file: </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">we thought
that is also not true. The script regarding the online
plotter is shown below:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
<div>*|[OL2|</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>Unit 45 Type 65 Online plotter</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>Parameters 10 <font color="#ff0000">! Here shows 10
parameters of type 65, OFF=0 means display online; LU=-1
, we guess it is means logical unit =-1?</font></div>
<div>*</div>
<div>*NbLeft NbRight LeftMin LeftMax RightMin
RightMax </div>
<div>6 2 0.0 100000000 0.0 100.0</div>
<div>*NbPlots XGridPts OFF LU</div>
<div>1 10 0 -1</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>Inputs 8</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>44,1 44,2 44,5 44,6 44,7
44,4 EFFCOLL SOLFRAC</div>
<div>ESol EAux EMains EDHW EHouse
ELossTank EffCol SolFrac</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>Labels 5</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>kJ %</div>
<div>Energy</div>
<div>Percentage</div>
<div>Integrated</div>
<div>*</div>
<div>Assign ***.ou2 22 ! <font color="#ff0000">here we just
remove the header sign "*".</font></div>
<div>*</div>
<div>*|]</div>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><br>
</span></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">c. this online plotter is
type 65c, means a online plotter without file: because
"assign" statement has already been contained, so it seems
not to be a right answer.</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">d. the post-processing will
erase the data in the ou1 and ou2 files: that is a
interesting idea from one student, but we checked the "out"
folder, bat and txt file did not support this assumption.</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">In a summary, we have no
idea about why two output files-ou1 and ou2 are blank.</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">Thus, I send this email to
all of you for a help.</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">Any comments and advise will
be helpful to us.</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'">Thanks, </font></div>
<div><font face="'Times New Roman'"><br>
</font></div>
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