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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Karol,<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>just a brief answer:<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.)<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>The parameters of Type are defined in the Trnsys Studio at the Tab
parameter<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.)<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>The two NTYPEs are the same if <br>
- the thermal zone has one airnode only and<br>
- longwave radiation mode = STANDARD<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>NTYPE 24: For being backwards compatible it is always calculated by<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><font size=2 color=blue
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue;font-weight:bold'> DO</span></font></b><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
NS=N1,N2 ! all surfaces <font color=red><span style='color:red'>of airnode</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=red
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:red'> </span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> OUT(IOUT)=OUT(IOUT)+AREA(NS)*TSI(NS)<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=red
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:red'> </span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> TOTAREA=TOTAREA+AREA(NS)<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=red
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:red'> </span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> <b><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue;font-weight:bold'>ENDDO</span></font></b><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
OUT(IOUT)=OUT(IOUT)/TOTAREA</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> NTYPE 120: <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> a) Longwave radiation mode = STANDARD:<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=red face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:red'> </span></font><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'> <b><font color=blue><span style='color:blue;font-weight:
bold'>DO</span></font></b> NS=N1,N2 <font color=green><span style='color:green'>!all
surface </span></font><font color=red><span style='color:red'>of zone</span></font><font
color=green><span style='color:green'> to which airnode belongs<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=red
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:red'> </span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> TMSURF=TMSURF+AREA(NS)*TSI(NS)<o:p></o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=red
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:red'> </span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> TOTAREA=TOTAREA+AREA(NS)<o:p></o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=red
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:red'> </span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> <b><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue;font-weight:bold'>ENDDO</span></font></b><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=red
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:red'> </span></font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> OUT(IOUT)=TMSURF/TOTAREA
<font color=green><span style='color:green'>!area weighted mean surface
temperature<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=green
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:green'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=green
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:green'> </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>b) Longwave
radiation mode = DETAILED:<br>
caluclation based Gebhart factors. The Gebhart method
involves the view factor from the comfort point to the surfaces <o:p></o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> and the therewith the position in the
room with respect to the surrounding surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Marion</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Karol Bandurski
[mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Freitag, 30. März 2012
17:20<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] mean
radiant and operative temperature</span></font><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>I have 2 question:<o:p></o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><span
lang=EN-US>In manual vol. 5 (introduction) I have read:<o:p></o:p></span>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-style:italic'>The third parameter gives the <font
color=red><span style='color:red'>WEIGHTING FACTOR</span></font> between air
and mean surface temperature for the calculation of an operative room
temperature. The inputs and outputs of TYPE 56 depend upon the building
description and options within the TRNBUILD program. TRNBUILD generates an
information file describing the outputs and required inputs of TYPE 56</span></font></i><span
lang=EN-US>.<o:p></o:p></span>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Where can I found/ set this factor?<o:p></o:p></span></font></u>
</p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font>
</p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><span
lang=EN-US>What is the exactly difference between:<o:p></o:p></span>
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style='margin-left:9.0pt;border-collapse:collapse'>
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<p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
6.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>NTYPE 24 <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:3.65pt'>
<p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
6.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>TMSURF <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<td width=290 height=5 valign=top style='width:217.8pt;border:solid black 1.0pt;
border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:3.65pt'>
<p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
6.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>weighted mean surface temperature of airnode <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<td width=36 height=5 valign=top style='width:27.3pt;border:solid black 1.0pt;
border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:3.65pt'>
<p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
6.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>[°C] <o:p></o:p></span></font>
</p>
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