<div><br>Dear Laia Cases,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Many thanks!</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>For OF=GT(CO2,1000)*1+GT(700,CO2)*0<br></div>
<div>GT(700,CO2)*0 is always 0.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I think it should be OF=GT(CO2,1000)*1+GT(CO2,700)*1</div>
<div> </div>
<div>But the result becomes CO2 ia always less than 700, it can not get to 1000.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>So PLEASE pass me some ideas or EQUATIONS: first, get to 1000 ppm, then OF=1, until 700 ppm OF = 0</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Many thanks in advance!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Br.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>wang<br><br></div>
<div> </div>
<div><br> </div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Wang,<br><br>OF=GT(CO2,1000)*1+GT(700,CO2)*0<br><br>Laia<br><br>El 02/11/2011 14:03, 王洋 escribió:
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<div>Dear all,<br> <br> Please tell me how to set an equation:<br> <br> OF=1, when CO2%>1000<br> <br> OF = 0, when CO2%< 700</div>
<div> </div>
<div> I tried to use LT and GE, but e.g. it only realize OF = 1, when CO2%>1000 and OF = 0, when CO2% < 1000. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> I need </div>
<div> OF=1, when CO2%>1000<br> <br> OF = 0, when CO2%< 700<br> <br> Thanks in advance!<br> <br> wang <br><br></div>
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<div>Dear all,</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Please tell me how to set an equation:</div>
<div> </div>
<div> OF=1, when CO2%>1000</div>
<div> </div>
<div> OF = 0, when CO2%< 700</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Thanks!</div>
<div> </div>
<div> wang <br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">在 2011年11月2日 下午12:14，王洋 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>></span>写 道：<br>
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<div>Dear all,</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Which experts can tell me a question about air density?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> In TRNbuild PROPERTIES about air density 1.2 kg/m^3: Is it a initial value? If outdoor temperature changes in TrnFlow, this air density value will change as the teperature or it is a constant?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Thanks!</div>
<div> </div>
<div> wang</div>
<div><br><br> </div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Adriana,<br> I had thought that I sent a response about this. In case it did not get to you, here it is again:<br><br>...<br> It would help to know a bit more about the configuration of your system: what are you drying, is the material in a big lump, is it spread out on shelves, is it moving, does it occupy most of the available space in the chamber or a comparatively small part of the space, etc.)<br>
<br> I think you could probably use the Type56 multi-zone building model for the drying chamber itself. <br><br> I would guess that you would need to write a new model for the material that you are drying. If the material is quite spread-out then this might be easily enough characterized by a first-order differential equation and you even might be able to use Tess Type693. Type693 is intended to model a thermal lumped capacitance that heats and cools according to a first-order differential equation but I imagine that pricipals are basically the same whether you are talking about thermal capacitance or moisture capacitance. <br>
<br> If the product is not spread out, if important moisture gradients develop within it as it dries, or if its drying process is exothermic (like it is for compost) then I think you would need to write your own model or collaborate with someone who could write the model for you. In order to write the model you would need to have access to a FORTRAN compiler such as Intel Visual Fortran v11.x<br>
<br> Once you have the model of the drying substance, you would connect its moisture loss to a moisture gain input of the building (drying chamber) model.<br><br>Kind regards,<br> David<br><br>On 10/30/2011 20:45, Adriana Gómez Aldana wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'" lang="EN-US">The </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'" lang="EN-US">air density changes with temperature in Trnbuild.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Which experts can tell me a question about air density?</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> In TRNbuild PROPERTIES about air density 1.2 kg/m^3: Is it a initial value? If outdoor temperature changes in TrnFlow, this air density value will change as the teperature or it is a constant?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Thanks!</p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Adriana,<br> I had thought that I sent a response about this. In case it did not get to you, here it is again:<br><br>...<br> It would help to know a bit more about the configuration of your system: what are you drying, is the material in a big lump, is it spread out on shelves, is it moving, does it occupy most of the available space in the chamber or a comparatively small part of the space, etc.)<br>
<br> I think you could probably use the Type56 multi-zone building model for the drying chamber itself. <br><br> I would guess that you would need to write a new model for the material that you are drying. If the material is quite spread-out then this might be easily enough characterized by a first-order differential equation and you even might be able to use Tess Type693. Type693 is intended to model a thermal lumped capacitance that heats and cools according to a first-order differential equation but I imagine that pricipals are basically the same whether you are talking about thermal capacitance or moisture capacitance. <br>
<br> If the product is not spread out, if important moisture gradients develop within it as it dries, or if its drying process is exothermic (like it is for compost) then I think you would need to write your own model or collaborate with someone who could write the model for you. In order to write the model you would need to have access to a FORTRAN compiler such as Intel Visual Fortran v11.x<br>
<br> Once you have the model of the drying substance, you would connect its moisture loss to a moisture gain input of the building (drying chamber) model.<br><br>Kind regards,<br> David<br><br>On 10/30/2011 20:45, Adriana Gómez Aldana wrote: </p>
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<p style="BACKGROUND: white" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">I am a TRNSYS user since it is one of the tools for my phD thesis. Currently, I am working in a solar drying problem and I would like to know if there is a special module to simulate the drying chamber. If it is possible to acquire this module, I would be very thankful if you can explain me how is the procedure to access it. </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"></span></p>
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