<div>Dear all,</div>
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<div> For my last question, indeed the time step is a biggest question!</div>
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<div>When I define the <font size="3"><font color="#1f497d">the Type 14h to enter the „schedule“ directly in the Simulation Studio <font color="#000000">which is the same condition : </font><font color="#000000">every 2 hours (starting at 10 am) the windows are fully opened (OF=1) for 5 minutes.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font size="3"><font color="#1f497d"><font color="#000000">The weirdest thing appears: the escaping hot air is unexpectedly 1348 kg! It's much more than 466 kg I define a normal schedule in TRNBuild with the same condition: every 2 hours (starting at 10 am) the windows are fully opened (OF=1) for 5 minutes.</font></font></font></div>
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<div><font size="3"><font color="#1f497d"><font color="#000000">Which experts could explain that? Which result I should believe? Or are both of them not correct?</font></font></font></div>
<div><font size="3">Or how can I deal with it?</font></div>
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<div><font size="3"><font color="#1f497d"><font color="#000000">Many thanks in advance!</font></font></font></div>
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From: 王洋 <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>><br>To: Heinze <<a href="mailto:heinze@ingweber.de">heinze@ingweber.de</a>>, <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>, <a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com">hotline@transsolar.com</a><br>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:55:42 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Equation<br>
<div>Hi Mr. Heinze,</div>
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<div>Thanks fou your quick reply!</div>
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<div>I tried a normal schedule in TRNBuild. But the result is very strange. In all <font color="#000099">20 minutes or 45 minutes</font> for open windows can escape the mass of hot air unexpectedly less than I use ON/OFF controller which controls OF directly for 18 mins. For 20 minutes or 45 minutes using schedule in TRNBuild, they are only<font color="#000099"> 466 kg and 750 kg</font>, however, for 18 mins using ON/OFF control, it's unexpectedly <font color="#000099">1432 kg</font>. You could see 45 mins is twice than 20 mins using schedule in TRNBuild, the escaping hot air mass is also not twice relationship! </div>
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<div>So I want to design an EQUATION to control the Opening Factor of the window (Input of TRNFlow) as 1:<u></u><u></u></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">every 2 hours (starting at 10 am) the windows are fully opened (OF=1) for 5 minutes.<br>every 1 hour (starting at 9 am) the windows are fully opened (OF=1) for 5 minutes.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<div>Then have a look the result.</div>
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<div>My simulation time step is 0.01 hour i.e. 3 mins. Whether the strange result has the relationship with the simulation time step or not? Or Please give me some advices for the strange result!</div>
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<div>Many thanks in advance!</div>
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<div>wang</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/28 Heinze <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:heinze@ingweber.de" target="_blank">heinze@ingweber.de</a>></span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Wang, <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">this should be possible with a normal schedule in TRNBuild. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Or you can use the Type 14h to enter the „schedule“ directly in the Simulation Studio.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt">best regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt">Sascha Heinze<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Von:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">王洋</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 28. Oktober 2011 11:21<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> [TRNSYS-users] Equation<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> I want to design an EQUATION to control the Opening Factor of the window (Input of TRNFlow) as 1:<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">every 2 hours (starting at 10 am) the windows are fully opened (OF=1) for 5 minutes.<br>every 1 hour (starting at 9 am) the windows are fully opened (OF=1) for 5 minutes.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks in advance!<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Br.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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than "Re: Contents of TRNSYS-users digest..."<br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: TRNFlow Cs of Large Opening , Simulink integrated with<br> TRNSYS (??)<br> 2. Re: weather files (Timothy McDowell)<br>
3. Re: radiator_modelling (Matt Duffy)<br> 4. Re: weather files (Matt Duffy)<br><br><br>---------- <span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Gothic'">已</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: MingLiU">转发邮件</span> ----------<br>From: <span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Gothic'">王洋</span> <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>, <a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a><br>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:11:24 +0200<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNFlow Cs of Large Opening , Simulink integrated with TRNSYS<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Dear all,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">I have some questions about TRNFlow and Calling Matlab.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">1) For Closed Opening in TRNFlow: There is a flow coefficient Cs per m crack length, the default value is 0.0001 kg/s/m at 1 Pa. Why is it this value? How to get or calculate it?</span><span style="COLOR: #3366ff" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Since I don't know how many meters of the cracks are in the zone.</span><span style="COLOR: #3366ff" lang="EN-US"> I seeked from the TRNFlow manual but there is nothing about it.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">when I set Cs as 0 kg/s/m at 1 Pa, BUT I found there is still air flow escaping from the zone (there is only one zone in my project). Because I observed CO2 concentration is still decreasing all the time after closed all the openings. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">If I want to simulate the infiltration rate (0.4 1/h) after closing all the openings, How could I set this Cs? What equations can I use? Many thanks in advance!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">2) For Calling Simulink: Which experts have some experience for calling Simulink? I designed a Controller using Simulink, I need connect the controller’s output and input with the TYPE 56’s input and output, and set a set-point value using Simulink. Who could tell me some general guides or pass me your examples about that. I will appreciate very much for your help! Since I also didn't find anything in Manual or others.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Or must I translate Simulink into M-file, then connect with TYPE 56?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Many thanks in advance!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Br</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br>---------- <span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Gothic'">已</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: MingLiU">转发邮件</span> ----------<br>From: "Timothy McDowell" <<a href="mailto:mcdowell@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">mcdowell@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:52:12 -0500 (CDT)<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] weather files<br>You can use the Type9 data reader to read-in your data and the Type16 radiation processor to determine the radiation on different surfaces.<br>
<br>Regards,<br><br>Tim<br><br><br><br><br>---------------------------------- <br>Timothy McDowell <br>Executive Vice President <br>Thermal Energy System Specialists, LLC <br>22 N. Carroll St, Suite 370 <br>Madison, WI 53703 <br>
Phone: <a href="tel:608-274-2577" target="_blank">608-274-2577</a> <br>Fax: <a href="tel:608-278-1475" target="_blank">608-278-1475</a><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p>
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<strong>Sent:</strong> Thu, October 27, 2011 6:56<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TRNSYS-users] weather files<u></u><u></u></p>
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To: "NOM KARAS" <<a href="mailto:nomkaras@gmail.com" target="_blank">nomkaras@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:58:12 -0500 (CDT)<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] radiator_modelling<br>Dear Nomikos,<br><br>First of all, if you have an older version of the TESS Libraries, it is not very expensive to upgrade. I would recommend doing that and obtaining the Type1231 radiator. If I did not have that option, I do not think I would pursue active layers. Rather, I would probably just using a pipe and specify the the loss coefficient, then couple that with Type56 via a GAIN input. The validity is questionable, but it might get you close.<br>
<br>Regards,<br><br>Matt Duffy<br><br><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><strong>----- Original Message -----</strong><br><strong>From:</strong> "NOM KARAS" <<a href="mailto:nomkaras@gmail.com" target="_blank">nomkaras@gmail.com</a>> <br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thu, October 27, 2011 5:47<br><strong>Subject:</strong> [TRNSYS-users] radiator_modelling<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Trnsys users,<br><br>I want to modell a classic heating system with radiators (that use hot water, heated from a central boiler). I have read previous threads that talk about a component of transsolar (type 362 ) that simulates such a radiator and found that TESS has a similar component type-1231. Unfortunately I don't have these components (I have an older version of TESS library) and I wondered if i could simulate somehow the radiator with type-56 (trnbuild) by using an active layer. I know that active layers are traditionally used for internal floor heating, but I made this consideration :<br>
<br>To add to my heating zone an external wall <u>with active layer</u> and <u>adiabatic conditions</u> on the surface looking to the enviroment ( active layers cant unfortunately be used in internal walls) that has wall area equal to the desired radiator (and by equal i mean the total ! surface of the radiator that takes part in the radiation-convection&nb sp; heat exchange).<br>
<br>I would appreciate your opinion on this,<br><br>with regards Nomikos.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><br><br>---------- <span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Gothic'">已</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: MingLiU">转发邮件</span> ----------<br>From: "Matt Duffy" <<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:59:24 -0500 (CDT)<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] weather files<br>There is also an example of Type9 with Type16 in that same directory ".\Examples\Weather Data" <br>
<br>Regards,<br><br>Matt<br><br><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><strong>----- Original Message -----</strong><br><strong>From:</strong> "Timothy McDowell" <<a href="mailto:mcdowell@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">mcdowell@tess-inc.com</a>> <br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thu, October 27, 2011 7:52<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TRNSYS-users] weather files<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal">You can use the Type9 data reader to read-in your data and the Type16 radiation processor to determine the radiation on different surfaces.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Tim<br><br>
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<strong>Sent:</strong> Thu, October 27, 2011 6:56<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TRNSYS-users] weather files<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">There are a few ways to do it, I just use the Type 9 data reader and just copy the data from Excel into a text file. But this requires that you do the solar radiation conversion from horizontal to your surface outside TRNSYS (I have a custom Excel FORTRAN function and the advantage I find is that it make the simulation time independent).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Or you can use the Type 99 and there are examples of how to do that in:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dear All, i am a new user in Trnsys 17. i must do a simulation, and validate some data for buildings. and i need to create a weather file. so how can i do it. i have my own Data, radiation, ambient temperature, and relative humidity. do i must have a "meteonorm" program to create a weather data or there is any other solution. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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