<div>Dear all,</div>
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<div> I want to design an EQUATION to control the Opening Factor of the window (Input of TRNFlow) as 1:</div>
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<div>every 2 hours (starting at 10 am) the windows are fully opened (OF=1) for 5 minutes.<br>every 1 hour (starting at 9 am) the windows are fully opened (OF=1) for 5 minutes.</div>
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<div>Many thanks in advance!</div>
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To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>, <a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com">hotline@transsolar.com</a><br>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:11:24 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNFlow Cs of Large Opening , Simulink integrated with TRNSYS<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Dear all,</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">I have some questions about <span>TRNFlow</span> and Calling Matlab.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">1) <span>For</span> <span>Closed</span> <span>Opening</span> in <span>TRNFlow</span>: There is a flow coefficient <span>Cs</span> per m crack length, the default value is 0.0001 kg/s/m at 1 Pa. Why is it this value? How to get or calculate it?<span style="COLOR: rgb(51,102,255)"> <span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Since I don't know how many meters of the cracks are in the zone.</span> I seeked from the TRNFlow manual but there is nothing about it.</span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">when I set <span>Cs</span> as 0 kg/s/m at 1 Pa, BUT I found there is still air flow escaping from the zone (there is only one zone in my project). Because I observed CO2 concentration is still decreasing all the time after <span>closed</span> all the openings. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">If I want to simulate the infiltration rate (0.4 1/h) after closing all the openings, How could I set this Cs? What equations can I use? </span></span><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Many thanks in advance!</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">2) <span>For</span> Calling Simulink: Which experts have some experience <span>for</span> calling Simulink? I designed a Controller using Simulink, I need connect the controller’s output and input with the TYPE 56’s input and output, and set a set-point value using Simulink. Who could tell me some general guides or pass me your examples about that. I will appreciate very much for your help! Since I also didn't find anything in Manual or others.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Or must I translate Simulink into M-file, then connect with TYPE 56?</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Many thanks in advance!</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Br</span></span></p>
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To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:52:12 -0500 (CDT)<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] weather files<br>You can use the Type9 data reader to read-in your data and the Type16 radiation processor to determine the radiation on different surfaces.<br>
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<div>There are a few ways to do it, I just use the Type 9 data reader and just copy the data from Excel into a text file. But this requires that you do the solar radiation conversion from horizontal to your surface outside TRNSYS (I have a custom Excel FORTRAN function and the advantage I find is that it make the simulation time independent).</div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">Or you can use the Type 99 and there are examples of how to do that in:</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Dear All, i am a new user in Trnsys 17. i must do a simulation, and validate some data for buildings. and i need to create a weather file. so how can i do it. i have my own Data, radiation, ambient temperature, and relative humidity. do i must have a "meteonorm" program to create a weather data or there is any other solution. </font><br>
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:58:12 -0500 (CDT)<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] radiator_modelling<br>Dear Nomikos,<br><br>First of all, if you have an older version of the TESS Libraries, it is not very expensive to upgrade. I would recommend doing that and obtaining the Type1231 radiator. If I did not have that option, I do not think I would pursue active layers. Rather, I would probably just using a pipe and specify the the loss coefficient, then couple that with Type56 via a GAIN input. The validity is questionable, but it might get you close.<br>
<br>Regards,<br><br>Matt Duffy<br><br><br>
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<div>Dear Trnsys users,<br><br>I want to modell a classic heating system with radiators (that use hot water, heated from a central boiler). I have read previous threads that talk about a component of transsolar (type 362 ) that simulates such a radiator and found that TESS has a similar component type-1231. Unfortunately I don't have these components (I have an older version of TESS library) and I wondered if i could simulate somehow the radiator with type-56 (trnbuild) by using an active layer. I know that active layers are traditionally used for internal floor heating, but I made this consideration :<br>
<br>To add to my heating zone an external wall <u>with active layer</u> and <u>adiabatic conditions</u> on the surface looking to the enviroment ( active layers cant unfortunately be used in internal walls) that has wall area equal to the desired radiator (and by equal i mean the total ! surface of the radiator that takes part in the radiation-convection&nb sp; heat exchange).<br>
<br>I would appreciate your opinion on this,<br><br>with regards Nomikos.<br>
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:59:24 -0500 (CDT)<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] weather files<br>There is also an example of Type9 with Type16 in that same directory ".\Examples\Weather Data" <br><br>Regards,<br><br>
Matt<br><br><br>
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<div>You can use the Type9 data reader to read-in your data and the Type16 radiation processor to determine the radiation on different surfaces.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Tim<br><br><br><br><br>---------------------------------- <br>
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<div>There are a few ways to do it, I just use the Type 9 data reader and just copy the data from Excel into a text file. But this requires that you do the solar radiation conversion from horizontal to your surface outside TRNSYS (I have a custom Excel FORTRAN function and the advantage I find is that it make the simulation time independent).</div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">Or you can use the Type 99 and there are examples of how to do that in:</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Dear All, i am a new user in Trnsys 17. i must do a simulation, and validate some data for buildings. and i need to create a weather file. so how can i do it. i have my own Data, radiation, ambient temperature, and relative humidity. do i must have a "meteonorm" program to create a weather data or there is any other solution. </font><br>
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