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Karol,<br>
Unless you are concerned about the radiation exchange within the
zone (and have selected the detailed zone geometry model) you don't
really need to worry about having only concave zones. Having said
that, there are a few options for estimating the air exchange
between air nodes. The simplest method is simply to define some
arbitrary (usually high) mixing rate between the two parts of the
zone. This will keep the two zones at approximately the same
temperature. The other alternative is to use either TRNFlow, COMIS,
or CONTAM/Type97 to predict the air exchange rate based on the
temperature and pressure differences between the two air nodes.
These second alternatives are a significant amount of work so I
would first look at your building's energy consumption assuming that
there is no air exchange between the two zones, then look at the
energy consumption assuming significant air exchange. If there isn't
a big difference you know that the building isn't very sensitive to
the air exchange rate and you can save yourself the time of modeling
it by setting an arbitrary air exchange rate to achieve a realistic
level of comfort difference between the two zones.<br>
kind regards,<br>
David<br>
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On 9/29/2011 04:08, Karol Bandurski wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The problem is from Type
56.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have house with few
rooms which are not rectangular, they are concave. So, I
can’t make one room=one zone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I divided room on
rectangles to make zones, and walls between zones of one
room are VirtualSurface. Radiation is seemed OK, but air
between two zones of one room isn’t mixed…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">What can I do? Is it
possible to solve this problem in TRNBuild or I have to go
outside Type 56 and operate in Simulation Studio?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regard,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Karol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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