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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Hy Alexis<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>First question: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>if you want to update your geometry, you can choose “file”->“update trnsys 3d file” in Trnbuild and choose the actual example_b17.idf and example.idf of your project.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>(If you want to save the old geometry, then you may choose something like example</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>_1.idf, but remember to change the example.bui to example_1.bui in TRNSYS!) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Now, all the changes you have done in Trnbuild are saved into the .idf. Change your updated .ifd in sketchup. Open Trnbuild and close all projects in Trnbuild. Go to “file”->”import Trnsys 3d file”. Check if your changes in geometry affect some inputs/outputs/zones etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Second question:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>You have to separate the face into two faces by drawing a line on it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Mit freundlichem Gruß,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Sarah Settler<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Ökoplan</span><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Büro für zeitgemäße Energieanwendung</span><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Hümmelsbütteler Weg 36</span><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>22339 Hamburg</span><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>T 040 5394143 F 040 5394144</span><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Alexis Fabre (3E) [mailto:Alexis.Fabre@3e.eu] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 5. August 2011 16:37<br><b>An:</b> trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu<br><b>Betreff:</b> [TRNSYS-users] Problem with TRNSys 17<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m trying to use TRNSys 17 and specially TRNsys with SketchUp and I found 2 problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would be really greatfull if somebody could help me solving these problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>First question: I defined a model on SketchUp (geometry) and I saved it as .idf to create afterwards a TRNSys file (.tpf and .b17). My question is really simple: If I want to change information in my .skp (or .idf) file, is it possible to update this information in the TRNSys file (.tpf and .b17) or do I need to create a new project with TRNSys and a new .tpf and .b17? If guess is possible to update directly information from the .skp file to the .b17 (otherwise I do not really understand the added value of using SketchUp), but I do not understand how to do this update.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Second question: In my SketchUp model, I have different cells and for some cells, it is in contact with more than one cell. If I want to define in the “object info” in “construction” that the cell is an ADJ_Wall, then I select Zone in “outside Boundary condition” and I select the “outside boundary object”. But unfortunately, I cannot select several “outside boundary condition” whereas the face of the cell which is shown on the 2<sup>nd</sup> picture is in contact with two other cells. I know that I can fix this problem directly in TRNBuild but could I do it in SketchUp?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><img width=366 height=455 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image001.png@01CC55A5.9BB29A80" alt="cid:image004.png@01CC5361.90266430"></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=773 height=370 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.png@01CC55A5.9BB29A80"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks a lot for your answer and help<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:#5C6C64'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:#5C6C64'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 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