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    Wang,<br>
     It depends on what the pressure difference was during your test!
    Typical test data is reported at a 50 Pa pressure difference but if
    that isn't what you used when you measured the infiltration rate
    then this "typical" value is irrelevant.<br>
    David<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 7/5/2011 10:59, 王洋 wrote:
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cite="mid:CABF0dEtwUxu8awBVoMfCO67pojm+zJEFXvAFt0iDgBZbxEPXnQ@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div>Dear Mr. Bradley,</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>     Thanks for your reply!</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>    I only want to compare the actual measurement value with
        the TRNFlow results. I made an experiment in our test room and
        got the infiltration rate as 0.4 1/h using the tracer gas, but I
        didn't know the  pressure difference value between indoor and
        outdoor at that time. Then I used TRNFlow's TEST DATA to set
        this infiltration rate 0.4 and test and compare the TRNFlow
        result with the actual measurement result. As you know, the TEST
        DATA need the pressure difference value between indoor and
        outdoor. So I asked you about how many Pas I should set?</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div> thanks!</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>Br.</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>wang<br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_quote">2011/7/5 David BRADLEY <span dir="ltr"><<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br>
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          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Wang,<br>
              If you are defining the pressure difference value in the
            test data option then typically you would have the results
            of a "blower door" test in which a special door containing a
            computer controlled fan is installed in the building. The
            fan is run at different speeds to force a pressure
            difference between indoors and outdoors. Running the fan at
            various speeds can give you an estimate of the total leakage
            area of the building. If you are working with a building
            design (instead of with an actual building) then you can't
            really use the "test data" type of opening in TRNFlow. You
            need to use the more theoretical opening types.<br>
            Regards,<br>
            <font color="#888888"> David</font>
            <div>
              <div class="h5"><br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On 7/4/2011 08:14, 王洋 wrote:
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                  <div>Dear Mr. Bradley,</div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>    Thanks for your patient reply!</div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>   To the pressure difference between indoors and
                    outdoors:</div>
                  <div>Do you mean it's difficult to use some measuring
                    devices and methods to test it? Whether there is no
                    an Maths Equation  to calculate this value according
                    to known data e.g. building height, wind spead etc.?
                  </div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>   Because I need one pressure difference(pa)
                    value in Test Data Option of TRNFLOW.</div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>  Many thanks!</div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div> br.</div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>wang  <br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                  </div>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">2011/7/1 王洋 <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/16 David
                            BRADLEY <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                              <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Wang,<br>
                                 Chapter 18 is the one you need; look
                                specifically on page 18.19 at the
                                mathematical description of the
                                conduction process through the walls.<br>
                                <br>
                                 As for your question about pressure
                                differences, the pressure difference
                                between indoors and outdoors varies with
                                a great many factors (windspeed,
                                direction, obstructions, building
                                height, the nature of the openings in
                                the building facades, etc.). In many
                                tests, the flow through an opening with
                                a 50Pa pressure difference is given.
                                Whether a 50Pa pressure difference is
                                average or extreme, however, depends on
                                the building.<br>
                                Regards,<br>
                                 David
                                <div>
                                  <div><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    On 3/16/2011 08:25, 王洋 wrote:
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                                      <br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">Dear Mr.
                                        Bradley,<br>
                                        <br>
                                             But I cann't find the
                                        ASHRAE Handbook of Fundamentals
                                        about<br>
                                          the Conduction Transfer
                                        Function methodology. My ASHRAE
                                        Handbook of Fundamentals is 2009
                                        version.<br>
                                        The chapter 4 Heat transfer and
                                        Chapter 6 Mass transfer have no
                                        informations about transfer
                                        function coefficients.<br>
                                        Please tell me which chapter of
                                        the ASHRAE Handbook of
                                        Fundamentals contains transfer
                                        function coefficients etc.?<br>
                                        <br>
                                        PLUS: <font face="Arial"
                                          size="2"><span>In </span></font>Test
                                        Data Option of TRNFLOW : about
                                        the pressure difference(pa).
                                        Please tell me normally what's
                                        the pressure differnce between
                                        outside and inside in winter or
                                        summer? The trnflow manual <font
                                          face="Arial" size="2"><span>and
                                            Example Rest_com.tpf </span></font>have
                                        no detailed introduction. I
                                        tried also 20 pa or 0 pa etc. Is
                                        it OK? <br>
                                        <br>
                                        Many thanks!<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Br.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        wang<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>><br>
                                            ><br>
                                            >  Wang,<br>
                                            >   The thermal time
                                            constant for a zone in your
                                            building is not a simple<br>
                                            > thing to compute. It
                                            has to do with the materials
                                            in the wall, the<br>
                                            > placement<br>
                                            > of the mass within the
                                            wall, the capacitance of the
                                            zone, ventilation,<br>
                                            > infiltration, gains,
                                            solar radiation, etc. I
                                            would think that the easiest<br>
                                            > way to get an estimate
                                            of the zone's thermal time
                                            constant is to impose a<br>
                                            > step change in one
                                            input on it - step change
                                            the ambient temperature
                                            while<br>
                                            > holding all other
                                            inputs constant for example.<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            >   The numbers that you
                                            see in the *.inf file are
                                            transfer function<br>
                                            > coefficients. You can
                                            read in the ASHRAE Handbook
                                            of Fundamentals about<br>
                                            > the<br>
                                            > Conduction Transfer
                                            Function methodology.<br>
                                            > Regards,<br>
                                            >  David<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            ><br>
                                            ><br>
                                            > On 11/3/2010 09:29, 王洋
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            > Dear all,<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            > 1. How to calculate or
                                            find the thermal time
                                            constant of zone in TRNSYS<br>
                                            > software?<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            > ---------- WALL TYPE
                                            BST_FL_HEAT_W1    
                                             ----------<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            >        THERMAL
                                            CONDUCTANCE, U=    67.80000
                                            kJ/h m2K; U-Wert=    
                                            4.48235<br>
                                            > W/m2K<br>
                                            >               (incl.
                                            alpha_i=7.7 W/m^2 K and
                                            alpha_o=25 W/m^2 K)<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            >                        
                                            TRANSFERFUNCTION
                                            COEFFICIENTS<br>
                                            >    K            A      
                                                   B              C    
                                                     D<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            >    0      
                                            1.7050117E+02  
                                             2.1087019E+01  
                                             1.7050117E+02<br>
                                            > 1.0000000E+00<br>
                                            >    1    
                                             -1.1800059E+02  
                                             3.5808933E+01  
                                            -1.1800059E+02<br>
                                            > -1.3683139E-01<br>
                                            >    2      
                                            6.0267372E+00  
                                             1.6298573E+00  
                                             6.0267372E+00<br>
                                            > 4.7362566E-05<br>
                                            >    3    
                                             -1.2736107E-03  
                                             2.3363784E-04  
                                            -1.2736107E-03<br>
                                            >   SUM    
                                             5.8526043E+01  
                                             5.8526043E+01  
                                             5.8526043E+01<br>
                                            > 8.6321597E-01<br>
                                            > What's meaning of A B C
                                            D? Are they Wall's
                                            TRANSFERFUNCTION
                                            COEFFICIENTS?<br>
                                            > And what is the thermal
                                            time constant of the whole
                                            zone? How to calculate<br>
                                            > or<br>
                                            > find the thermal time
                                            constant of the whole zone
                                            in TRNSYS software?<br>
                                            > Need I   calculate by
                                            myself the whole zone's
                                            TRANSFERFUNCTION based on<br>
                                            > all<br>
                                            > the walls of the zone
                                            or others?<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            > 2.  How to calculate or
                                            find air volume flow of the
                                            window opening in<br>
                                            > TRNFlow software?<br>
                                            >  The window opening
                                            area (m2)is known. Whether
                                            it needs the wind<br>
                                            > speed(m/s)<br>
                                            > or not?<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            > Many thanks!<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            > Br.<br>
                                            ><br>
                                            > wang<br>
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                                            >> Geschäftsführer:
                                            Dipl.Ing. Matthias Schuler,
                                            Dipl.Ing. Thomas Auer,<br>
                                            >> Dipl.Phys. Stefan
                                            Holst, Prof. Volkmar
                                            Bleicher<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> -----Ursprüngliche
                                            Nachricht-----<br>
                                            >> Von: julia.feste
                                            [mailto:<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:julia.feste@whitepavilion.com.cn"
                                              target="_blank">julia.feste@whitepavilion.com.cn</a>]<br>
                                            >> Gesendet: Mittwoch,
                                            3. November 2010 06:46<br>
                                            >> An: <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu"
                                              target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                            >> Betreff:
                                            [TRNSYS-users] google
                                            sketchup+trnsys3d<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> Hello everybody,<br>
                                            >> Thanks for your
                                            posts that's always really
                                            interesting!<br>
                                            >> I come up with a
                                            problem using Google
                                            Sketchup and TRNSYS3D:
                                            inside a<br>
                                            >> TRNSYS zone, I
                                            draft a square, then I want
                                            to pull it up at a certain<br>
                                            >> height, so I write
                                            the number then Enter, and
                                            this error appears:<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> <-----Beginning
                                            of the error-----><br>
                                            >> ERROR:<br>
                                            >> NoMethodError<br>
                                            >> undefined method
                                            `position' for<br>
                                            >>
                                            #<Sketchup::AttributeDictionary:0xfcb4eb8><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> BACKTRACE:<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:309:in
                                            `polygon_loop'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:309:in
                                            `each'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:309:in
                                            `polygon_loop'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:321:in
                                            `outer_polygon'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:326:in
                                            `polygon'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingUtils.rb:27:in<br>
                                            >> `detect_base_face'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingUtils.rb:20:in
                                            `each'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingUtils.rb:20:in<br>
                                            >> `detect_base_face'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:254:in
                                            `face_polygon'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:253:in
                                            `each'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:253:in
                                            `face_polygon'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/Surface.rb:107:in<br>
                                            >>
                                            `update_input_object'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:94:in<br>
                                            >>
                                            `update_input_object'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingInterface.rb:353:in<br>
                                            >> `on_change_entity'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/observers/FaceObserver.rb:32:in
                                            `onChangeEntity'<br>
                                            >> C:/Program
                                            Files/Google/Google SketchUp<br>
                                            >>
                                            8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:17:in
                                            `initialize'<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> <-----End of the
                                            error-----><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> When I pull it up
                                            manual, I don't have any
                                            problem, just when I write<br>
                                            >> the number.<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> Thanks in advance
                                            for your help,<br>
                                            >> Julia.<br>
                                            >>
                                            ________________________________________<br>
                                            >> From: <a
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                                              href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu"
                                              target="_blank">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                            >> [<a
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                                              href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu"
                                              target="_blank">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>]<br>
                                            >> Sent: Wednesday,
                                            November 03, 2010 1:04 AM<br>
                                            >> To: <a
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                                              href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu"
                                              target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                            >> Subject:
                                            TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 71,
                                            Issue 4<br>
                                            >><br>
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                                            >> ---------- 已转发邮件
                                            ----------<br>
                                            >> From: "Emiliano
                                            Casati - 3ME" <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                            >> To: <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu"
                                              target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
                                            >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov
                                            2010 13:19:58 +0100<br>
                                            >> Subject:
                                            [TRNSYS-users] input file<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> Hi to everybody!<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> I don’t understand
                                            why, for certain projects, I
                                            can’t open the input<br>
                                            >> file,<br>
                                            >> the message is “the
                                            system cannot find the path
                                            specified”.<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> Where should I find
                                            the input file?<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> Thanks a lot<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> ec<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> ---------- 已转发邮件
                                            ----------<br>
                                            >> From: "Timothy
                                            McDowell" <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:mcdowell@tess-inc.com"
                                              target="_blank">mcdowell@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
                                            >> To: "Thibaut VITTE"
                                            <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr"
                                              target="_blank">thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr</a>>,<br>
                                            >> <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu"
                                              target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                            >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov
                                            2010 07:23:05 -0500 (CDT)<br>
                                            >> Subject: Re:
                                            [TRNSYS-users] GenOpt
                                            optimization: problem for
                                            the<br>
                                            >> secondgeneration
                                            after 5 simulations<br>
                                            >> This type of error
                                            in GenOpt is usually caused
                                            by an error in the TRNSYS<br>
                                            >> simulation.  You
                                            need to check the *.lst file
                                            for the TRNSYS run to see<br>
                                            >> what the TRNSYS
                                            error is.<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> Regards,<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> Tim<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >>
                                            ----------------------------------<br>
                                            >> Timothy McDowell<br>
                                            >> Executive Vice
                                            President<br>
                                            >> Thermal Energy
                                            System Specialists, LLC<br>
                                            >> 22 N. Carroll St,
                                            Suite 370<br>
                                            >> Madison, WI 53703<br>
                                            >> Phone: 608-274-2577<br>
                                            >> Fax: 608-278-1475<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >> ----- Original
                                            Message -----<br>
                                            >> From: "Thibaut
                                            VITTE" <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr"
                                              target="_blank">thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr</a>><br>
                                            >> Sent: Wed, November
                                            3, 2010 5:27<br>
                                            >> Subject:Re:
                                            [TRNSYS-users] GenOpt
                                            optimization: problem for
                                            the<br>
                                            >> secondgeneration
                                            after 5 simulations<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >>    Dear Alexis,<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >>    I've had a
                                            similar error when I used
                                            Genopt. I've had several<br>
                                            >>    components
                                            tracked by a "trace" command
                                            that made my list file<br>
                                            >>    enormous (more
                                            than 100Mb) and genopt
                                            could'nt handle that amount
                                            of<br>
                                            >>    data.<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >>    Just my 2cents.<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >>    Thibaut<br>
                                            >>    --<br>
                                            >><br>
                                            >><br>
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                                            important;<br>
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                                            >> font-family:Tahoma,
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                                            text-align:justify !
                                            important;<br>
                                            >> color:#3329b1;
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                                            >> font-family:Times
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                                            important; }<br>
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                                          Specialists, LLC<br>
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David BRADLEY
Principal
Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI  53703 USA

P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>

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David BRADLEY
Principal
Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI  53703 USA

P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>

<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.tess-inc.com/" target="_blank">http://www.tess-inc.com</a>
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David BRADLEY
Principal
Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI  53703 USA

P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>

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