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    Wang,<br>
      If you are defining the pressure difference value in the test data
    option then typically you would have the results of a "blower door"
    test in which a special door containing a computer controlled fan is
    installed in the building. The fan is run at different speeds to
    force a pressure difference between indoors and outdoors. Running
    the fan at various speeds can give you an estimate of the total
    leakage area of the building. If you are working with a building
    design (instead of with an actual building) then you can't really
    use the "test data" type of opening in TRNFlow. You need to use the
    more theoretical opening types.<br>
    Regards,<br>
     David<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 7/4/2011 08:14, 王洋 wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CABF0dEs0FuAf2po8BFM3UFGV1G-_Gx1ggSiyLf_Via3s+e7zgA@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div>Dear Mr. Bradley,</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>    Thanks for your patient reply!</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>   To the pressure difference between indoors and outdoors:</div>
      <div>Do you mean it's difficult to use some measuring devices and
        methods to test it? Whether there is no an Maths Equation  to
        calculate this value according to known data e.g. building
        height, wind spead etc.? </div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>   Because I need one pressure difference(pa) value in Test
        Data Option of TRNFLOW.</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>  Many thanks!</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div> br.</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>wang  <br>
        <br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_quote">2011/7/1 王洋 <span dir="ltr"><<a
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/16 David BRADLEY <span
                  dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br>
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                  <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Wang,<br>
                     Chapter 18 is the one you need; look specifically
                    on page 18.19 at the mathematical description of the
                    conduction process through the walls.<br>
                    <br>
                     As for your question about pressure differences,
                    the pressure difference between indoors and outdoors
                    varies with a great many factors (windspeed,
                    direction, obstructions, building height, the nature
                    of the openings in the building facades, etc.). In
                    many tests, the flow through an opening with a 50Pa
                    pressure difference is given. Whether a 50Pa
                    pressure difference is average or extreme, however,
                    depends on the building.<br>
                    Regards,<br>
                     David
                    <div>
                      <div><br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        On 3/16/2011 08:25, 王洋 wrote:
                        <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">Dear Mr. Bradley,<br>
                            <br>
                                 But I cann't find the ASHRAE Handbook
                            of Fundamentals about<br>
                              the Conduction Transfer Function
                            methodology. My ASHRAE Handbook of
                            Fundamentals is 2009 version.<br>
                            The chapter 4 Heat transfer and Chapter 6
                            Mass transfer have no informations about
                            transfer function coefficients.<br>
                            Please tell me which chapter of the ASHRAE
                            Handbook of Fundamentals contains transfer
                            function coefficients etc.?<br>
                            <br>
                            PLUS: <font face="Arial" size="2"><span>In
                              </span></font>Test Data Option of TRNFLOW
                            : about the pressure difference(pa). Please
                            tell me normally what's the pressure
                            differnce between outside and inside in
                            winter or summer? The trnflow manual <font
                              face="Arial" size="2"><span>and Example
                                Rest_com.tpf </span></font>have no
                            detailed introduction. I tried also 20 pa or
                            0 pa etc. Is it OK? <br>
                            <br>
                            Many thanks!<br>
                            <br>
                            Br.<br>
                            <br>
                            wang<br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <div>
                              <div>><br>
                                ><br>
                                >  Wang,<br>
                                >   The thermal time constant for a
                                zone in your building is not a simple<br>
                                > thing to compute. It has to do with
                                the materials in the wall, the<br>
                                > placement<br>
                                > of the mass within the wall, the
                                capacitance of the zone, ventilation,<br>
                                > infiltration, gains, solar
                                radiation, etc. I would think that the
                                easiest<br>
                                > way to get an estimate of the
                                zone's thermal time constant is to
                                impose a<br>
                                > step change in one input on it -
                                step change the ambient temperature
                                while<br>
                                > holding all other inputs constant
                                for example.<br>
                                ><br>
                                >   The numbers that you see in the
                                *.inf file are transfer function<br>
                                > coefficients. You can read in the
                                ASHRAE Handbook of Fundamentals about<br>
                                > the<br>
                                > Conduction Transfer Function
                                methodology.<br>
                                > Regards,<br>
                                >  David<br>
                                ><br>
                                ><br>
                                ><br>
                                > On 11/3/2010 09:29, 王洋 wrote:<br>
                                ><br>
                                > Dear all,<br>
                                ><br>
                                > 1. How to calculate or find the
                                thermal time constant of zone in TRNSYS<br>
                                > software?<br>
                                ><br>
                                > ---------- WALL TYPE BST_FL_HEAT_W1
                                     ----------<br>
                                ><br>
                                >        THERMAL CONDUCTANCE, U=  
                                 67.80000 kJ/h m2K; U-Wert=     4.48235<br>
                                > W/m2K<br>
                                >               (incl. alpha_i=7.7
                                W/m^2 K and alpha_o=25 W/m^2 K)<br>
                                ><br>
                                >                        
                                TRANSFERFUNCTION COEFFICIENTS<br>
                                >    K            A              B  
                                           C              D<br>
                                ><br>
                                >    0       1.7050117E+02  
                                 2.1087019E+01    1.7050117E+02<br>
                                > 1.0000000E+00<br>
                                >    1      -1.1800059E+02  
                                 3.5808933E+01   -1.1800059E+02<br>
                                > -1.3683139E-01<br>
                                >    2       6.0267372E+00  
                                 1.6298573E+00    6.0267372E+00<br>
                                > 4.7362566E-05<br>
                                >    3      -1.2736107E-03  
                                 2.3363784E-04   -1.2736107E-03<br>
                                >   SUM      5.8526043E+01  
                                 5.8526043E+01    5.8526043E+01<br>
                                > 8.6321597E-01<br>
                                > What's meaning of A B C D? Are they
                                Wall's TRANSFERFUNCTION COEFFICIENTS?<br>
                                > And what is the thermal time
                                constant of the whole zone? How to
                                calculate<br>
                                > or<br>
                                > find the thermal time constant of
                                the whole zone in TRNSYS software?<br>
                                > Need I   calculate by myself the
                                whole zone's TRANSFERFUNCTION based on<br>
                                > all<br>
                                > the walls of the zone or others?<br>
                                ><br>
                                > 2.  How to calculate or find air
                                volume flow of the window opening in<br>
                                > TRNFlow software?<br>
                                >  The window opening area (m2)is
                                known. Whether it needs the wind<br>
                                > speed(m/s)<br>
                                > or not?<br>
                                ><br>
                                > Many thanks!<br>
                                ><br>
                                > Br.<br>
                                ><br>
                                > wang<br>
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                                >>   1. Re: GenOpt optimization:
                                problem for the second generation<br>
                                >>      after 5 simulations
                                (Thibaut VITTE)<br>
                                >>   2. Re: google
                                sketchup+trnsys3d (hotline)<br>
                                >>   3. input file (Emiliano
                                Casati - 3ME)<br>
                                >>   4. Re: GenOpt optimization:
                                problem for the secondgeneration<br>
                                >>      after 5 simulations
                                (Timothy McDowell)<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>
                                >> From: Thibaut VITTE <<a
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                                  href="mailto:thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr"
                                  target="_blank">thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr</a>><br>
                                >> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                >> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 11:27:53
                                +0100<br>
                                >> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users]
                                GenOpt optimization: problem for the
                                second<br>
                                >> generation after 5 simulations<br>
                                >> Dear Alexis,<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> I've had a similar error when I
                                used Genopt. I've had several components<br>
                                >> tracked by a "trace" command
                                that made my list file enormous (more
                                than<br>
                                >> 100Mb) and genopt could'nt
                                handle that amount of data.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Just my 2cents.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Thibaut<br>
                                >> --<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Le futur maîtrisé<br>
                                >><br>
                                >>  Thibaut VITTE<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Docteur - Ingénieur Energies<br>
                                >><br>
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                                >><br>
                                >> Afin de contribuer au respect
                                de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer
                                ce<br>
                                >> message qu'en cas de nécessité.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> In order to respect the
                                environment, please don't print this
                                e-mail<br>
                                >> unless<br>
                                >> you really need to.<br>
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                                >> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>
                                >> From: "hotline" <<a
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                                  href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com"
                                  target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><br>
                                >> To: "julia.feste" <<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:julia.feste@whitepavilion.com.cn"
                                  target="_blank">julia.feste@whitepavilion.com.cn</a>><br>
                                >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:37:08
                                +0100<br>
                                >> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users]
                                google sketchup+trnsys3d<br>
                                >> Hi,<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> that's a well known problem
                                that will be fixed in the next version.<br>
                                >> Hopefully upcoming within the
                                next weeks.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Regards<br>
                                >> Christian<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> TRANSSOLAR Software Team<br>
                                >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com"
                                  target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.trnsys.de/"
                                  target="_blank">www.trnsys.de</a><br>
                                >> Transsolar KlimaEngineering -
                                Technologien für energieeffizientes
                                Bauen<br>
                                >> und Nutzerkomfort in Gebäuden<br>
                                >> Transsolar Energietechnik GmbH,
                                Curiestrasse 2, 70563 Stuttgart /<br>
                                >> Amtsgericht Stuttgart - HRB
                                23347 / USt-IdNr.: 99073/00911<br>
                                >> Geschäftsführer: Dipl.Ing.
                                Matthias Schuler, Dipl.Ing. Thomas Auer,<br>
                                >> Dipl.Phys. Stefan Holst, Prof.
                                Volkmar Bleicher<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> -----Ursprüngliche
                                Nachricht-----<br>
                                >> Von: julia.feste [mailto:<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:julia.feste@whitepavilion.com.cn"
                                  target="_blank">julia.feste@whitepavilion.com.cn</a>]<br>
                                >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. November
                                2010 06:46<br>
                                >> An: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                >> Betreff: [TRNSYS-users] google
                                sketchup+trnsys3d<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Hello everybody,<br>
                                >> Thanks for your posts that's
                                always really interesting!<br>
                                >> I come up with a problem using
                                Google Sketchup and TRNSYS3D: inside a<br>
                                >> TRNSYS zone, I draft a square,
                                then I want to pull it up at a certain<br>
                                >> height, so I write the number
                                then Enter, and this error appears:<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> <-----Beginning of the
                                error-----><br>
                                >> ERROR:<br>
                                >> NoMethodError<br>
                                >> undefined method `position' for<br>
                                >>
                                #<Sketchup::AttributeDictionary:0xfcb4eb8><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> BACKTRACE:<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:309:in
                                `polygon_loop'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:309:in
                                `each'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:309:in
                                `polygon_loop'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:321:in
                                `outer_polygon'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/sketchup/Sketchup.rb:326:in
                                `polygon'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingUtils.rb:27:in<br>
                                >> `detect_base_face'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingUtils.rb:20:in
                                `each'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingUtils.rb:20:in<br>
                                >> `detect_base_face'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:254:in
                                `face_polygon'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:253:in
                                `each'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:253:in
                                `face_polygon'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/Surface.rb:107:in<br>
                                >> `update_input_object'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:94:in<br>
                                >> `update_input_object'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingInterface.rb:353:in<br>
                                >> `on_change_entity'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/observers/FaceObserver.rb:32:in
                                `onChangeEntity'<br>
                                >> C:/Program Files/Google/Google
                                SketchUp<br>
                                >>
                                8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:17:in
                                `initialize'<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> <-----End of the
                                error-----><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> When I pull it up manual, I
                                don't have any problem, just when I
                                write<br>
                                >> the number.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Thanks in advance for your
                                help,<br>
                                >> Julia.<br>
                                >>
                                ________________________________________<br>
                                >> From: <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu"
                                  target="_blank">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                >> [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu"
                                  target="_blank">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>]<br>
                                >> Sent: Wednesday, November 03,
                                2010 1:04 AM<br>
                                >> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                >> Subject: TRNSYS-users Digest,
                                Vol 71, Issue 4<br>
                                >><br>
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                                Subject line so it is more specific than<br>
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                                >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>
                                >> From: "Emiliano Casati - 3ME"
                                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:E.I.M.Casati@tudelft.nl"
                                  target="_blank">E.I.M.Casati@tudelft.nl</a>><br>
                                >> To: <<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu"
                                  target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
                                >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:19:58
                                +0100<br>
                                >> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] input
                                file<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Hi to everybody!<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> I don’t understand why, for
                                certain projects, I can’t open the input<br>
                                >> file,<br>
                                >> the message is “the system
                                cannot find the path specified”.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Where should I find the input
                                file?<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Thanks a lot<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> ec<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>
                                >> From: "Timothy McDowell" <<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:mcdowell@tess-inc.com"
                                  target="_blank">mcdowell@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
                                >> To: "Thibaut VITTE" <<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr"
                                  target="_blank">thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr</a>>,<br>
                                >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu"
                                  target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:23:05
                                -0500 (CDT)<br>
                                >> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users]
                                GenOpt optimization: problem for the<br>
                                >> secondgeneration after 5
                                simulations<br>
                                >> This type of error in GenOpt is
                                usually caused by an error in the TRNSYS<br>
                                >> simulation.  You need to check
                                the *.lst file for the TRNSYS run to see<br>
                                >> what the TRNSYS error is.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Regards,<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Tim<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >>
                                ----------------------------------<br>
                                >> Timothy McDowell<br>
                                >> Executive Vice President<br>
                                >> Thermal Energy System
                                Specialists, LLC<br>
                                >> 22 N. Carroll St, Suite 370<br>
                                >> Madison, WI 53703<br>
                                >> Phone: 608-274-2577<br>
                                >> Fax: 608-278-1475<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> ----- Original Message -----<br>
                                >> From: "Thibaut VITTE" <<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr"
                                  target="_blank">thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr</a>><br>
                                >> Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010
                                5:27<br>
                                >> Subject:Re: [TRNSYS-users]
                                GenOpt optimization: problem for the<br>
                                >> secondgeneration after 5
                                simulations<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >>    Dear Alexis,<br>
                                >><br>
                                >>    I've had a similar error
                                when I used Genopt. I've had several<br>
                                >>    components tracked by a
                                "trace" command that made my list file<br>
                                >>    enormous (more than 100Mb)
                                and genopt could'nt handle that amount
                                of<br>
                                >>    data.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >>    Just my 2cents.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >>    Thibaut<br>
                                >>    --<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
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                                color:#3329b1; font-family:Tahoma,
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                                >><br>
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                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >>                  Le futur
                                maîtrisé<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >>              Thibaut VITTE<br>
                                >>              Docteur -
                                Ingénieur Energies<br>
                                >>              Mail : <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr"
                                  target="_blank">thibaut.vitte@h3c-energies.fr</a><br>
                                >><br>
                                >>            
                                 -----------------------------<br>
                                >>              H3C-énergies<br>
                                >>              35, chemin du
                                vieux Chêne - 38240 MEYLAN<br>
                                >>              Tél : 04 76 41 88
                                66 – Fax : 04 76 41 28<br>
                                >>                  94<br>
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                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.h3c-energies.fr/"
                                  target="_blank">www.h3c-energies.fr</a><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >>
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                                >>      Afin de contribuer au
                                respect de l'environnement,<br>
                                >>        merci de n'imprimer ce
                                message qu'en cas de nécessité.<br>
                                >>      In order to respect the
                                environment, please don't<br>
                                >>        print this e-mail unless
                                you really need to.<br>
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                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
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                                >><br>
                                >>
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                                >><br>
                                >><br>
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                                -----<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
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                                  href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu"
                                  target="_blank">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users"
                                  target="_blank">https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><br>
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                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users"
                              target="_blank">www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><br>
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                              > ***************************<br>
                              > David BRADLEY<br>
                              > Principal<br>
                              > Thermal Energy Systems Specialists,
                              LLC<br>
                              > 22 North Carroll Street - suite 370<br>
                              > Madison, WI  53703 USA<br>
                              ><br>
                              > P:+1.608.274.2577<br>
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                              href="mailto:F%3A%2B1.608.278.1475d.bradley@tess-inc.com"
                              target="_blank">F:+1.608.278.1475d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a><br>
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                                  target="_blank">www.trnsys.com</a><br>
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David BRADLEY
Principal
Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI  53703 USA

P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>

<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.tess-inc.com/" target="_blank">http://www.tess-inc.com</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.trnsys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.trnsys.com</a></div></pre>
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***************************
David BRADLEY
Principal
Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI  53703 USA

P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tess-inc.com">http://www.tess-inc.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.trnsys.com">http://www.trnsys.com</a></pre>
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