Dear Mr. Jezequel,<br><br> Many thanks for your answer.<br><br> Yes, I saw the Example: RadiationProcessing etc.It uses Type 16i i.e. Total horiz. Diffuse known(Mode 5). But I only get the Global Radiation data, I can't get the Diffuse radiation on horizontal from our weather station.<br>
<br>Besides that, it uses Type 9f which links to Type 16i. I can't find Type 9f in Proforma in Simulation Studio.<br><br><br><br>Thanks a lot!<br><br>Br.<br><br>wang<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/14 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br>
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1. Output Time Base for Massive Construction (Rebecca Ward)<br>
2. Type 56 Active Layer Not Saving (Devin Rohan)<br>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:16:18 +0100<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Output Time Base for Massive Construction<br><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-GB"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p><p class="MsoNormal">I’m new to TRNSYS and am modelling a brick building with very thick walls in places but which has an extension with fairly lightweight thin walls. In order to pass the stability criteria, I found it necessary to increase the output time base to 2 – what I’m wondering is how this affects the rest of the analysis, in particular the thinner lightweight walls? </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any help you can give.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p><p class="MsoNormal">Rebecca</p></div></div><br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>From: Devin Rohan <<a href="mailto:drohan@purdue.edu">drohan@purdue.edu</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:04:56 -0400<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56 Active Layer Not Saving<br>1.) When I'm defining an active layer, the save button is not accessible. So I put it into my wall type and I can save the wall type with the active layer in it. When I close out of TRNBuild and start a new project, the layer I defined as an "active layer" get assigned to a "massless layer" and the active layer option is not available. Any help as to why this happens is appreciated.<div>
<br></div><div>-- <br>Devin M. Rohan, LEED Green Associate<br>Purdue University <br>Civil/Architectural Engineering<br><a href="mailto:drohan@purdue.edu" target="_blank">drohan@purdue.edu</a><br>
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Subject: [TRNSYS-users] type 16<br>Dear all,<br><br> I added our institute own weather data into TRNSYS using Type 9. But I also want to add the other weather data: Global Radiation into TRNSYS. As I knew, I need Type 16 and Type 9. But I don't know detailed setting and defination of Type 16. Please give me some advices in details.<br>
E.g. 1. Which Mode should I select? Mode 2? Because there are Global radiation, Outdoor temperature and Humidity and wind speed, wind direction and Air pressure in our weather station.<br> 2. In details which Inputs and Outputs of Type 16 need I link to Type 9 and others?<br>
3. How to set and define the Parameter, Input and Output in details?<br><br> Many thanks!<br> <br> Br.<br><br> wang<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/13 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br>
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2. TRNSYS Active Layer Flowrate (Devin Rohan)<br>
3. type 700 efficiencies (Pablo D?az N??ez)<br>
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Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Question(solar radiation)<br><div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: gulim,Gulim,AppleGothic,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: gulim,Gulim,AppleGothic,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">
<p>Hi!!</p>
<p>I am a Korean student, i'm having some trouble with solar radiation.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I want to get "Indoor solar radiation" using Type56b(Multi zone)...</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But. I dont know output value about solar radiation..</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I think, Ntype 73 (zone output) is zone solar radiation, is it right??</p>
<p> </p>
<p>However i dont know unit of that..</p>
<p> </p>
<p>So.. My question are..</p>
<p> </p>
<p>1. is Ntype 73 zone solar radiation? so what's the unit??</p>
<p> </p>
<p>2. if not Ntype 73, How can i get the indoor solar radiation?</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>thanks to all,</p></div></div></div>
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Subject: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS Active Layer Flowrate<br>
The Type 56 manual suggests that the specific mass flow rate be greater than 13 kg/h-m^2. Say I wanted to convert this to mass flow rate in kg/s and the fluid was flowing through a 3/8" (or 9.525 mm) inside diameter pipe. Here's what I'm doing...<div>
<br></div><div>A_pipe= (pi*D^2)/4 = (pi*.009525^2)/4= 7.1256 E-5 m^2</div><div><br></div><div>13 kg/h-m^2 x (7.1256 E-5 m^2) x (h / 3600 sec) = 2.573 E-7 kg/s</div><div><br></div><div>This seems like an awfully low mass flow rate, since what I've seen in literature for floor heating applications is around .05 kg/s. Am I missing something here?<br clear="all">
<br>-- <br>Devin M. Rohan<br><a href="mailto:drohan@purdue.edu" target="_blank">drohan@purdue.edu</a><br>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:16:34 +0200<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] type 700 efficiencies<br><div>Dear trnsys users,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am simulating and studying the behaviour of a central heating system of a residential building with gas boilers. For the boiler I'm using type 700, where combustion and boiler efficiencies are inputs. I need these values as a function of the intlet water temperature and the part load ratio for the model to work and I don't find this data in any boiler catalog. Only partial data like the boiler efficiency at rated power.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If somebody had any cataloge with this data I would be very thankful. Or maybe somebody knows any manufacturer who could provide me.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I know it's not a doubt or question about trnsys itself, but I'm a bit desperate.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks in advance!</div>
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Le 14/06/2011 11:22, 王洋 a écrit :
<blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br>
<br>
I added our institute own weather data into TRNSYS using
Type 9. But I also want to add the other weather data: Global
Radiation into TRNSYS. As I knew, I need Type 16 and Type 9. But I
don't know detailed setting and defination of Type 16. Please give
me some advices in details.<br>
E.g. 1. Which Mode should I select? Mode 2? Because there
are Global radiation, Outdoor temperature and Humidity and wind
speed, wind direction and Air pressure in our weather station.<br>
2. In details which Inputs and Outputs of Type 16 need I
link to Type 9 and others?<br>
3. How to set and define the Parameter, Input and Output
in details?<br>
<br>
Many thanks!<br>
<br>
Br.<br>
<br>
wang<br>
<br>
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2. TRNSYS Active Layer Flowrate (Devin Rohan)<br>
3. type 700 efficiencies (Pablo D?az N??ez)<br>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:33:02 +0900<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Question(solar radiation)<br>
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<div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: gulim,Gulim,AppleGothic,sans-serif;">
<div style="font-family: gulim,Gulim,AppleGothic,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">
<p>Hi!!</p>
<p>I am a Korean student, i'm having some trouble with
solar radiation.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I want to get "Indoor solar radiation" using
Type56b(Multi zone)...</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But. I dont know output value about solar radiation..</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I think, Ntype 73 (zone output) is zone solar
radiation, is it right??</p>
<p> </p>
<p>However i dont know unit of that..</p>
<p> </p>
<p>So.. My question are..</p>
<p> </p>
<p>1. is Ntype 73 zone solar radiation? so what's the
unit??</p>
<p> </p>
<p>2. if not Ntype 73, How can i get the indoor solar
radiation?</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>thanks to all,</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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From: Devin Rohan <<a href="mailto:dmrohan@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmrohan@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:10:01 -0400<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS Active Layer Flowrate<br>
The Type 56 manual suggests that the specific mass flow rate
be greater than 13 kg/h-m^2. Say I wanted to convert this to
mass flow rate in kg/s and the fluid was flowing through a
3/8" (or 9.525 mm) inside diameter pipe. Here's what I'm
doing...
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>A_pipe= (pi*D^2)/4 = (pi*.009525^2)/4= 7.1256 E-5 m^2</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>13 kg/h-m^2 x (7.1256 E-5 m^2) x (h / 3600 sec)
= 2.573 E-7 kg/s</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This seems like an awfully low mass flow rate, since what
I've seen in literature for floor heating applications is
around .05 kg/s. Am I missing something here?<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
Devin M. Rohan<br>
<a href="mailto:drohan@purdue.edu" target="_blank">drohan@purdue.edu</a><br>
</div>
<br>
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To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:16:34 +0200<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] type 700 efficiencies<br>
<div>Dear trnsys users,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am simulating and studying the behaviour of a central
heating system of a residential building with gas boilers.
For the boiler I'm using type 700, where combustion and
boiler efficiencies are inputs. I need these values as a
function of the intlet water temperature and the part load
ratio for the model to work and I don't find this data in
any boiler catalog. Only partial data like the boiler
efficiency at rated power.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If somebody had any cataloge with this data I would be
very thankful. Or maybe somebody knows any manufacturer who
could provide me.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I know it's not a doubt or question about trnsys itself,
but I'm a bit desperate.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks in advance!</div>
<br>
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