Steps to resolve your simulation problem:<br /><br />1) Read the documentation for Type 9 and Type 16 carefully. Pay special attention to the section on interpolating data in Type 9 (don't with radiation) and the section in Type 16 about solar time versus local time. Consider daylight savings time (if applicable).<br /><br />2) Create your external data file with the weather data.<br /><br />3) Find the Type 9 data reader and choose the expert mode (Type9e). Choose the settings that match how your data file is set up. <br /><br />4) Drag out a Type 65 online plotter and make sure that the simulation is reproducing the data from the external file correctly.<br /><br />5) Then find the radiation processor and choose the mode where only the total horizontal radiation is know (Type16a). Choose the parameters carefully.<br /><br />6) Connect the total horizontal radiation from the data reader to the radiation processor. Also connect the time of!
last read and time of next read inputs,<br /><br />Repeat step 4.<br /><br />Jeff<br /><br />Jeff Thornton <br /> President - TESS, LLC <br /> <br /> 22 North Carroll Street - Suite 370<br /> Madison WI 53703 USA <br /> <br /> Phone: 608-274-2577 <br /> Fax: 608-278-1475 <br /> E-mail: thornton@tess-inc.com <br /> Web: www.tess-inc.com<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <!--replyfwdwrap--><div style="background-image: url(http://webmail.fusemail.com/de/r_bg_img.gif);background-position:top;background-repeat:repeat-x;"><strong>----- Original Message -----</strong><br /><strong>From:</strong> "王洋" <wanghongyang1767@gmail.com> <br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Tue, June 14, 2011 8:13<br /><strong>Subject:</strong> [TRNSYS-users] type 16<br /><br /><table width="100%" cellspacing="5"><tbody><tr><td><div class="PrivateMsgDiv"><!-- begin sanitized html --> Dear Mr. Jezequel,<br /><br /> Many thanks for your answer.<br /><br /> Yes, I saw the Example: RadiationP!
rocessing etc.It uses Type 16i i.e. Total horiz. Diffuse known(Mode 5)
. But I only get the Global Radiation data, I can't get the Diffuse radiation on horizontal from our weather station.<br /> <br />Besides that, it uses Type 9f which links to Type 16i. I can't find Type 9f in Proforma in Simulation Studio.<br /><br /><br /><br />Thanks a lot!<br /><br />Br.<br /><br />wang<br /><br /><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/14 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br /> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Send TRNSYS-users mailing list submissions to<br /> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> <br /> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br /> <a href="https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users" target="_new">https://mail!
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61@cam.ac.uk</a>><br />To: <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@ca
e.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br /> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:16:18 +0100<br />Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Output Time Base for Massive Construction<br /><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p><p class="MsoNormal">I’m new to TRNSYS and am modelling a brick building with very thick walls in places but which has an extension with fairly lightweight thin walls. In order to pass the stability criteria, I found it necessary to increase the output time base to 2 – what I’m wondering is how this affects the rest of the analysis, in particular the thinner lightweight walls?</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any help you can give.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p><p class="MsoNormal">Rebecca</p></div></div><br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br />From: Devin Rohan <<a href="mailto:drohan@purdue.edu" target="_new">drohan@purdue.edu</a>><br /> To: <a hre!
f="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br />Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:04:56 -0400<br />Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56 Active Layer Not Saving<br />1.) When I'm defining an active layer, the save button is not accessible. So I put it into my wall type and I can save the wall type with the active layer in it. When I close out of TRNBuild and start a new project, the layer I defined as an "active layer" get assigned to a "massless layer" and the active layer option is not available. Any help as to why this happens is appreciated.<div> </div><div>-- <br />Devin M. Rohan, LEED Green Associate<br />Purdue University <br />Civil/Architectural Engineering<br /><a href="mailto:drohan@purdue.edu" target="_new">drohan@purdue.edu</a></div> <br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br />From: 王洋 <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_new">wanghongyang1767@gm!
ail.com</a>><br />To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.ed
u" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br />Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:22:41 +0200<br /> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] type 16<br />Dear all,<br /><br /> I added our institute own weather data into TRNSYS using Type 9. But I also want to add the other weather data: Global Radiation into TRNSYS. As I knew, I need Type 16 and Type 9. But I don't know detailed setting and defination of Type 16. Please give me some advices in details.<br /> E.g. 1. Which Mode should I select? Mode 2? Because there are Global radiation, Outdoor temperature and Humidity and wind speed, wind direction and Air pressure in our weather station.<br /> 2. In details which Inputs and Outputs of Type 16 need I link to Type 9 and others?<br /> 3. How to set and define the Parameter, Input and Output in details?<br /><br /> &!
nbsp; Many thanks!<br /> <br /> Br.<br /><br /> wang<br /><br /><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/13 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br /> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Send TRNSYS-users mailing list submissions to<br /> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> <br /> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br /> <a href="https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users" target="_new">https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><br /> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br /> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users-re!
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><br /> <br /> You can reach the person managing the list at<br /> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users-owner@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users-owner@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> <br /> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br /> than "Re: Contents of TRNSYS-users digest..."<br /> <br />Today's Topics:<br /> <br /> 1. Question(solar radiation) (=?EUC-KR?B?udrB2L/4?=)<br /> 2. TRNSYS Active Layer Flowrate (Devin Rohan)<br /> 3. type 700 efficiencies (Pablo D?az N??ez)<br /> <br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br />From: 박준원<<a href="mailto:flowrime@naver.com" target="_new">flowrime@naver.com</a>><br />To: <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br /> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:33:02 +0900<br /> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Question(solar radiation)<br /><div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:!
gulim,Gulim,AppleGothic,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: gulim,Gulim,AppleGothic,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><p>Hi!!</p> <p>I am a Korean student, i'm having some trouble with solar radiation.</p> <p> </p> <p>I want to get "Indoor solar radiation" using Type56b(Multi zone)...</p> <p> </p> <p>But. I dont know output value about solar radiation..</p> <p> </p> <p>I think, Ntype 73 (zone output) is zone solar radiation, is it right??</p> <p> </p> <p>However i dont know unit of that..</p> <p> </p> <p>So.. My question are..</p> <p> </p> <p>1. is Ntype 73 zone solar radiation? so what's the unit??</p> <p> </p> <p>2. if not Ntype 73, How can i get the indoor solar radiation?</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>thanks to all,</p></div></div></div> <img width="0" height="0" border="0" alt="" src="http://mail2.naver.com/newmailcheck/xQF!
GbN+TWzMXFxUYarkRMxK/FoK9Kru9MrU/Fq+4KzUrp4p4KrElFoU/pA3g+H+0MoKl7xU5W
4dQaX3ZWNFlbZ99brkZbdIoM6E5+r0qMZl0pHE=.gif" /><br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br /> From: Devin Rohan <<a href="mailto:dmrohan@gmail.com" target="_new">dmrohan@gmail.com</a>><br />To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br />Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:10:01 -0400<br /> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS Active Layer Flowrate<br /> The Type 56 manual suggests that the specific mass flow rate be greater than 13 kg/h-m^2. Say I wanted to convert this to mass flow rate in kg/s and the fluid was flowing through a 3/8" (or 9.525 mm) inside diameter pipe. Here's what I'm doing...<div> </div><div>A_pipe= (pi*D^2)/4 = (pi*.009525^2)/4= 7.1256 E-5 m^2</div><div> </div><div>13 kg/h-m^2 x (7.1256 E-5 m^2) x (h / 3600 sec) = 2.573 E-7 kg/s</div><div> </div><div>This seems like an awfully low mass flow rate, since what I've see!
n in literature for floor heating applications is around .05 kg/s. Am I missing something here?<br clear="all" /> <br />-- <br />Devin M. Rohan<br /><a href="mailto:drohan@purdue.edu" target="_new">drohan@purdue.edu</a></div> <br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br />From: "Pablo Díaz Núñez" <<a href="mailto:p.diazn87@gmail.com" target="_new">p.diazn87@gmail.com</a>><br />To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:16:34 +0200<br />Subject: [TRNSYS-users] type 700 efficiencies<br /><div>Dear trnsys users,</div> <div> </div> <div>I am simulating and studying the behaviour of a central heating system of a residential building with gas boilers. For the boiler I'm using type 700, where combustion and boiler efficiencies are inputs. I need these values as a function of the intlet water temperature and the part load rat!
io for the model to work and I don't find this data in any boiler cata
log. Only partial data like the boiler efficiency at rated power.</div> <div> </div> <div>If somebody had any cataloge with this data I would be very thankful. Or maybe somebody knows any manufacturer who could provide me.</div> <div> </div> <div>I know it's not a doubt or question about trnsys itself, but I'm a bit desperate.</div> <div> </div> <div>Thanks in advance!</div> <br />_______________________________________________<br /> TRNSYS-users mailing list<br /> <a href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> <a href="https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users" target="_new">https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><br /> <br /></blockquote></div><br /> <br /><br />---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br />From: Adrien JEZEQUEL - ITF <<a href="mailto:a.jezequel@itf.biz" target="_new">a.jezequel@itf.biz</a>><br />To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_!
new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br />Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:42:47 +0200<br /> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type 16<br /> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Dear Wang,<br /> <br /> I think TRNSYS examples deal with weather data. <br /> I suggest you to check examples in your local TRNSYS directory to see how to do.<br /> <br /> Best regards<br /> </font></font> <div><hr width="450" size="2" color="#3300ff" align="LEFT" /> <table border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="120" rowspan="3"><center><a href="http://www.itf.biz" target="_new"><img width="66" height="103" border="0" src="cid:part016139@thornton@tess-inc.com" alt="www.itf.biz" /></a><br /> <font size="1" face="CALIBRI" color="#0000ff"><a href="http://www.itf.biz" target="_new">www.itf.biz</a></font></center></td> <td colspan="2"><font s!
ize="2" face="CALIBRI" color="#000000">Adrien JEZEQUEL<br />
Simulations Thermiques Dynamiques</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="LEFT"><font size="4" face="CALIBRI" color="#0000ff"><b>ITF</b></font></td> <td><font size="2" face="CALIBRI" color="#0000ff">62, Rue du Bolliet<br /> 73230 St Alban Leysse<br /> FRANCE<br /> </font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="40" align="LEFT"><font size="2" face="CALIBRI" color="#0000ff"> Phone :<br /> Fax :<br /> Mail:<br /> </font></td> <td><font size="2" face="CALIBRI" color="#0000ff"> +33(0) 479 750 029<br /> +33(0) 479 852 122<br /> <a href="mailto:a.jezequel@itf.biz" target="_new">a.jezequel@itf.biz</a> ou <a href="mailto:aj@itf.biz" target="_new">aj@itf.biz</a></font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <i><font size!
="1" face="CALIBRI" color="#008000">Afin de contribuer au respect de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer cet e-mail que si nécessaire<br /> <font size="1" face="CALIBRI" color="#008000">Please, consider our environmental responsability before printing this email<br /> </font></font></i></div> <br /> Le 14/06/2011 11:22, 王洋 a écrit : <blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br /> <br /> I added our institute own weather data into TRNSYS using Type 9. But I also want to add the other weather data: Global Radiation into TRNSYS. As I knew, I need Type 16 and Type 9. But I don't know detailed setting and defination of Type 16. Please give me some advices in details.<br /> E.g. 1. Which Mode should I select? Mode 2? Because there are Global radiation, Outdoor temperature and Humidity!
and wind speed, wind direction and Air pressure in our weather
station
.<br /> 2. In details which Inputs and Outputs of Type 16 need I link to Type 9 and others?<br /> 3. How to set and define the Parameter, Input and Output in details?<br /> <br /> Many thanks!<br /> <br /> Br.<br /> <br /> wang<br /> <br /> <div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/13 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br /> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Send TRNSYS-users mailing list submissions to<br /> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-use!
rs@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> <br /> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br /> <a href="https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users" target="_new">https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><br /> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br /> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> <br /> You can reach the person managing the list at<br /> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users-owner@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users-owner@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> <br /> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br /> than "Re: Contents of TRNSYS-users digest..."<br /> <br /> Today's Topics:<br /> <br /> !
1. Question(solar radiation) (=?EUC-KR?B?udrB2L/4?=)<br />
2. TRNSYS Active Layer Flowrate (Devin Rohan)<br /> 3. type 700 efficiencies (Pablo D?az N??ez)<br /> <br /> <br /> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br /> From: 박준원<<a href="mailto:flowrime@naver.com" target="_new">flowrime@naver.com</a>><br /> To: <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br /> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:33:02 +0900<br /> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Question(solar radiation)<br /> <div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: gulim,Gulim,AppleGothic,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: gulim,Gulim,AppleGothic,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><p>Hi!!</p> <p>I am a Korean student, i'm having some trouble with solar radiation.</p> <p> </p> <p>I want to get "Indoor solar radiation" usin!
g Type56b(Multi zone)...</p> <p> </p> <p>But. I dont know output value about solar radiation..</p> <p> </p> <p>I think, Ntype 73 (zone output) is zone solar radiation, is it right??</p> <p> </p> <p>However i dont know unit of that..</p> <p> </p> <p>So.. My question are..</p> <p> </p> <p>1. is Ntype 73 zone solar radiation? so what's the unit??</p> <p> </p> <p>2. if not Ntype 73, How can i get the indoor solar radiation?</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>thanks to all,</p></div></div></div> <img width="0" height="0" border="0" alt="" src="http://mail2.naver.com/newmailcheck/xQFGbN+TWzMXFxUYarkRMxK/FoK9Kru9MrU/Fq+4KzUr!
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if" /><br /> <br /> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br /> From: Devin Rohan <<a href="mailto:dmrohan@gmail.com" target="_new">dmrohan@gmail.com</a>><br /> To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:10:01 -0400<br /> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS Active Layer Flowrate<br /> The Type 56 manual suggests that the specific mass flow rate be greater than 13 kg/h-m^2. Say I wanted to convert this to mass flow rate in kg/s and the fluid was flowing through a 3/8" (or 9.525 mm) inside diameter pipe. Here's what I'm doing... <div> </div> <div>A_pipe= (pi*D^2)/4 = (pi*.009525^2)/4= 7.1256 E-5 m^2</div> <div> </div> <div>13 kg/h-m^2 x (7.1256 E-5 m^2) x (h / 3600 sec) !
= 2.573 E-7 kg/s</div> <div> </div> <div>This seems like an awfully low mass flow rate, since what I've seen in literature for floor heating applications is around .05 kg/s. Am I missing something here?<br clear="all" /> <br /> -- <br /> Devin M. Rohan<br /> <a href="mailto:drohan@purdue.edu" target="_new">drohan@purdue.edu</a></div> <br /> <br /> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br /> From: "Pablo Díaz Núñez" <<a href="mailto:p.diazn87@gmail.com" target="_new">p.diazn87@gmail.com</a>><br /> To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_new">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br /> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:16:34 +0200<br /> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] type 700 efficiencies<br /> <div>Dear trnsys users,</div> !
<div> </div> <div>I am simulating and studying the
behaviour of a central heating system of a residential building with gas boilers. For the boiler I'm using type 700, where combustion and boiler efficiencies are inputs. I need these values as a function of the intlet water temperature and the part load ratio for the model to work and I don't find this data in any boiler catalog. Only partial data like the boiler efficiency at rated power.</div> <div> </div> <div>If somebody had any cataloge with this data I would be very thankful. Or maybe somebody knows any manufacturer who could provide me.</div> <div> </div> <div>I know it's not a doubt or question about trnsys itself, but I'm a bit desperate.</div> <div> </div> <div>Thanks in advance!</div> <br /> _______________________________________________<br /> !
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