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style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Adiabatic walls without windows<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>No internal gains<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>No air flow rate (nor ventilation nor infiltration)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Infinite cooling power to maintain the ambient temperature at the value used in manufacturer calculations (14°C) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Heating floor precisely parameterized according to manufacturer specifications (loops number, water flow rate, conductivity of insulation, etc.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>QALFL gives me the total emitted power and QCOOL the power emitted to the zone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Below is the result of the comparison at stationary conditions (plus a sensitivity perform in TRNSYS on pipe wall conductivity and loops number).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=534 style='width:400.4pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td width=212 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:158.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'></td><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Manufacturer<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=241 nowrap colspan=3 valign=bottom style='width:180.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>TRNSYS<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td width=212 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:158.8pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Conductivity W/m.K<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.8pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.3pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>0.35<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>0.45<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>0.35<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td width=212 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:158.8pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Loops number<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.8pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>3<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.3pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>3<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>3<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;background:#F2F2F2;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>1<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td width=212 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:158.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Total emitted power W<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>9564<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.3pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>7776<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>7850<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>7819<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td width=212 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:158.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Zone emitted power W<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>8980<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.3pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>7185<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>7254<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>7225<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td width=212 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:158.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Water outlet temperature °C<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>23.8<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.3pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 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power<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.8pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>94%<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.3pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>92%<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>92%<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>92%<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td width=212 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:158.8pt;background:#F2DDDC;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Gap on zone emitted power / Man.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=81 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.8pt;background:#F2DDDC;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.3pt;background:#F2DDDC;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-20%<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;background:#F2DDDC;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-19%<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=80 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:60.25pt;background:#F2DDDC;padding:0cm 3.5pt 0cm 3.5pt;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-20%<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does the gap between TRNSYS and manufacturer data fall within the model uncertainty or does it seem too high to you ? (~20% on power emitted to the zone)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Perhaps I missed something in my test case…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Or would you have any other advice to reduce the discrepancy ? (giving the fact that input data uncertainties are very small in my case since I have the detailed manufacturer specifications) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks a lot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#404040'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#404040'>Antoine Gautier<br>Solam</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#70B221'>en</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#404040'>+33 6 98 78 56 46<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#404040'>antoine.gautier@solamen.fr</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>