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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello Matt,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you say so concerning *.skp and *.idf, I guess I did a mess with the *.idf !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please find it attached.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Three questions now: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>How can I understand whether the *.idf is well done (just importing it in TRNSYS or also opening it as text?)?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just to start correctly next time: it doesn’t make any sense, creating the building as *.skp and then drawing the TRNSYS zones (generating the *.idf) as “geometric carbon copy” of the *.skp geometry, right? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>in zoning process, facing convex zones is really frequent (for example following the shape of flats within a multifamily house). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In order to create a detailed model following the apartments shapes (well zoned building, high number of zones, high simulation times), the only solution to represent correctly the “convex” apartment is to create 2 no convex zones separated with a full glazed, no resistance wall, setting then an high flow rate between the two zones?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks a lot,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stefano <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Matt Duffy [mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> martedì 10 maggio 2011 22.21<br><b>To:</b> Avesani Stefano ; trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] reporting possible TRNSYS3d bug<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Hello Stefano,<br><br>I have never seen this particular error. To the best of your knowledge, were there any significant errors in your *.idf? You hopefully did not combine a *.skp file with your *.idf?<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Matt Duffy<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><strong>----- Original Message -----</strong><br><strong>From:</strong> "Avesani Stefano" <stefano.avesani@eurac.edu> <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Mon, May 9, 2011 8:10<br><strong>Subject:</strong> [TRNSYS-users] reporting possible TRNSYS3d bug<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=5 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I am facing this problem with the TRNSYS3d plug in.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is this the right place to communicate this, isn’t? Please find in the following the error description.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Stefano<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>ERROR:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>NoMethodError<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>undefined method `upcase' for nil:NilClass<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>BACKTRACE:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:371:in `glazing_area'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/Bag.rb:87:in `each'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/Bag.rb:87:in `each'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:370:in `glazing_area'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/Zone.rb:494:in `exterior_glazing_area'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/Bag.rb:87:in `each'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/Bag.rb:87:in `each'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/Zone.rb:492:in `exterior_glazing_area'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/Zone.rb:503:in `percent_glazing'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/dialogs/ZoneInfoInterface.rb:50:in `populate_hash'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/dialogs/DialogInterface.rb:19:in `initialize'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/dialogs/ObjectInfoInterface.rb:40:in `new'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/dialogs/ObjectInfoInterface.rb:40:in `populate_hash'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/dialogs/DialogInterface.rb:36:in `update'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:63:in `update'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/ModelManager.rb:429:in `selection_changed'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/observers/SelectionObserver.rb:21:in `onSelectionBulkChange'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:371<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><pre><o:p> 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