<div dir="ltr">Thank you, thank you very much.<br>I'm preparing my memoiry of master
i'm special in mechanic engeneering of thermal power, my memoiry is
about ISCC integrated solai combine cycle systeme, if you have in
exemple projet in transys about this send it please to study it<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/7 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br>
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2. Re: How to use Type 84 properly (Leo H?berlein)<br>
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:58:43 +0200<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Starting a TRNSED application from a batch file (or similar)<br>Dear TRNSYS users,<br>
<br>
is it possible to start a TRNSED application from a batch file without having to select a file and klicking something somewhere?<br>
So far, I succeeded in starting the exe with a batch file like this:<br>
<br>
@echo off<br>
start "" "MyTrnsedApp.exe"<br>
exit<br>
<br>
But I still have to klick ok in the popup window, choose the .trd file and then start the simulation manually.<br>
<br>
Any ideas? I am free to migrate to other ways than batch files...<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:36:33 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] How to use Type 84 properly<br>Hey Jeff,<br><br>Thanks for the quick answer!!<br>Which run-time calculator do you mean? The Type 1233 run-time controller from the TESS Library?<br>
I am a beginner with TRNSYS and due to the fact that I am writing my bachelor-thesis, I cant afford buying the TESS library in addition.<br>
Isn't there another way to solve that problem?<br>Sorry for bothering you!<br><br>Greets<br><br>Leo<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/27 Jeff Thornton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">thornton@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div><Hi everyone,I am trying to connect a chilled ceiling to a moving average<br>
from the last 3 days.If the average ambient temperature is lower than 16<br>
degrees for 3 days in a row, the input temperature for the chilled ceiling<br>
should go up to 24 degrees. I am using Type 84 for that, but I am not<br>
sure about my input value(how to connect my moving average to my ambient<br>
temp) and how my equation for this should look like.I had the idea of a<br>
'greater than/lower than' equation but I can only turn it on and off with<br>
this one. Can anybody help??><br>
<br>
</div></div>Leo,<br>
<br>
I'm not sure a moving average is going to help you in this case as the<br>
average doesn't capture the effect you're looking for. For example,<br>
imagine you has two really cold days followed by a warm day. In the logic<br>
you described above, the chilled ceiling would go up to 24 degrees when it<br>
shouldn't (as the third day is warm). What you need to do is use a<br>
run-time calculator in conjunction with a daily integrator or run-time<br>
average to better implement your control. Use the moving average to<br>
calculate the average over the last 24 hours, feed that to an equation of<br>
the form:<br>
<br>
Variable=LT(T_Moving_Average,16)<br>
<br>
Then feed the result of the Variable equation (a one or a zero) to a<br>
run-time calculator and the output from the run-time calculator to another<br>
equation:<br>
<br>
OK_24=GT(Runtime,72)<br>
<br>
Then use this equation as the control for your chilled ceiling.<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
<br>
Jeff Thornton<br>
President - TESS, LLC<br>
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Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 23:40:35 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 85<br><div dir="ltr">Thank you for every things that you giving to me, and i hope that if you have a projet about solair central hybride?<br>
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:03:52 +0200<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Fwd: R How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Dear Mr. Bradley,<br><br> Many thanks! You're right. But when I open the TRNSYS 15's *.tpf file using TRNSYS 17 studio, so many former informations lost, the links' color became BLUE, please see the ATTACHED.<br>
<br> What's more, the TRNBUILD cann't open the former TRNSYS 15's *.bui file directly. It said, "cannot open BUI-File:(c:\trnsys 15\usr\Iwobay.bld)". Please see the 2nd ATTACHED. Please give me some advices to open them completely and keep all the former contents in detail using the TRNSYS 15/prebid/iisibat! I'm very eager to use those former programs.<br>
<br> My support said to me, try to adapt the syntax in the .dec file to TRNSYS 17, but I tried, it still goes blank. Please see the 3rd ATTACHED. How to adapt the syntax in the .dec file to TRNSYS 17?<br><br>
Thanks a lot!<br><br> Br.<br><br>wang<div><div></div><div><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/15 David BRADLEY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br>
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Wang,<br>
I just tried and it looks as though File: Open works as expected.
The Trnsys17 Studio is used for opening *.tpf files; it will make
its best attempt at automatically updating certain simulation
parameters that changed between Trnsys15 and Trnsys16. TRNBuild is
used for opening *.bui files; it will ask you to redefine your
window data as window data was stored in an external file and not in
the *.bui itself with Trnsys15.<br><font color="#888888">
David</font><div><div></div><div><br>
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On 4/15/2011 03:18, � wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br>
<br>
<br>
How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17?
Please tell me the detailed steps!<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance!<br>
<br>
br.<br>
<br>
wang<br>
<br>
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2. Re: type 860 PCM Storage Units (David BRADLEY)<br>
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To: Stefan Wachter <<a href="mailto:wachter@mail.hs-ulm.de" target="_blank">wachter@mail.hs-ulm.de</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:44:56 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] time delay by means of type 93
(input value recall)<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Stefan,<br>
Type93 simply holds onto a value for as many time
steps as you ask it to, then "releases" the value. The
control ought to work the same regardless of the system
size. I am not sure what you mean by "continuous"
controllers. If you mean that there are some controllers
that continuously modify a flow rate in order to
maintain an outlet temperature then a simple time delay
might cause some problems. You might look at some of the
controllers available in the TESS Controllers Library
(for Trnsys17) as there are a number of devices in there
with minimum run times and start-delays.<br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
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On 4/8/2011 04:05, Stefan Wachter wrote:
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<div style="font-family: Tahoma; direction: ltr; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px;">
<div dir="ltr">Hello everybody,</div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I am new
at trnsys-users.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Currently
I`m modeling an already existing solar heating
system (for hot water).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">In this
system the loading pump is activated by a time
delay of 4 minutes (after solar pump
is launched).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I tried
to model this as follows:</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">-
simulation time step: 2 minutes</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">-
storage of the control signal of the solar pump
over the last two time steps by means of type 93
(input value recall)</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">- if the
control signal of the solar pump is "1" in the
stored two time steps, then the loading pump is
launched.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">It works
(tried by a simple example deck) but does it
also works</font> in context with a quite big
deck (120 m² apertur area, 2 continuous
controllers)?</div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I`m
concerned about that the small time step of 2
minutes could cause problems (for example
oscillations of the controllers).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Could
this work or have someone of you another idea
how i can solve this problem?</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Thanks a
lot.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Best
regards.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Stefan
Wachter</font> </div>
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To: Filippo Busato <<a href="mailto:busato@gest.unipd.it" target="_blank">busato@gest.unipd.it</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:11:52 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type 860 PCM Storage Units<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Filippo,<br>
I am not familiar with Type860. However, there is a PCM
wall material component available in the user-donated
Type library (TRNLib). <br>
<br>
<a href="http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm" target="_blank">http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm</a><br>
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best,<br>
David<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi
everybody,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> I
found in the report “Simulation Models of PCM
storage units” (IEA Report C5 Subtask C) that a
Type 860 has been developed by the Institute
HEIG-VD in Yverdon-les-Bains Switzerland, by
Jacques Bony and Stephane Citherlet.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I would like
to know if that type is distributed and whom
could I get/buy that from.</span></p>
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To: <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com" target="_blank">pseudomino@gmx.com</a><br>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:16:16 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Ground Convection coefficient<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> As noted in
TRNBuild (where you set the back side convection
coefficient), a value smaller than 0.001 is used to
indicate direct contact between a BOUNDARY wall and a
temperature. A large value (such as 999) is used with
other wall categories (ADJACENT, EXTERNAL, etc.) to
indicate good thermal contact.<br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
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On 4/13/2011 10:30, <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com" target="_blank">pseudomino@gmx.com</a>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Hello,<br>
<br>
Usually, when using the assistant to create a
multizone building, the convection coefficient
between the soil and the floor is set to 999 to
reproduce the absence of thermal resistance.<br>
<br>
But when I create a file using the Trnsys3D import
from Sketchup, this same coefficient is set by
default to 0,001.<br>
Why is that ?<br>
<br>
Please help me understand</span></span>
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Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question<br>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Dear Lampros,</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">When I
saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window
showed 17 shading
objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I
believe that it automatically
created one object per surface, it is important
to know</span></font>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>1.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Is this normal?</span>
</p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">=> Yes
this is normal. Thr pluginallows you to draw
several shading surfaces into one group because
it is more convienent than
creating a group for each surface.</span></font>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>2.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Does this affect
my calculations?<br>
=> Yes, this is the required input and
therefore it is working fine </span><font face="Wingdings"><span style="font-family: Wingdings;" lang="EN-US">J</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>3.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Can I do
something to make it behave properly?<br>
=> No, this is the proper behavour</span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>4.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Why does outliner
window of my skp, even though it produces errors,
shows the shading
objects properly?<br>
=> because it’s not an error.</span>
</p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Best
regards,</span></font>
</p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: navy;"> </span></font><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; color: navy;"></span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Lampros Karalis
[mailto:<a href="mailto:lkaralis@metal.ntua.gr" target="_blank">lkaralis@metal.ntua.gr</a>]
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b>
Mittwoch, 13. April 2011
15:23<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:lkaralis@gmail.com" target="_blank">lkaralis@gmail.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b>
[TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D
plugin question</span></font><font face="Times
New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Dear All,</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">I am
working with the latest version of the TRNSYS 3d
plugin on windows
XP and using the trnsys 17.00019 version of the
simulation Studio.</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">I already
have sketched my building and defined the zones
in it, as
described on the manual. </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">The most
common problems I have met so far have to do
with some error
messages when I try to use the skp file. However
I read Mr. ‘s Duffy note
that we should only use the idf file, and
therefore I did not worry.</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">My main
problem begun when I started drawing the shadow
objects that
affect my building. I did defined the objects
as noted on the tutorial
(version June 2010) and on the Outliner Window I
could see two Shading Object
groups, (one for the nearby building that affect
mine and one for a second
construction that is attached to my building)
Please see attached skp file.</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">When I
saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window
showed 17 shading
objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I
believe that it automatically
created one object per surface, it is important
to know</span></font>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>5.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Is this normal?</span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>6.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Does this affect
my calculations?</span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>7.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Can I do
something to make it behave properly?</span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>8.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Why does outliner
window of my skp, even though it produces errors,
shows the shading
objects properly?</span>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Any help
would be most appreciated, specially on
questions #1, #2</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Best
Regards</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Lampros
Karalis</span></font>
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