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1. open *.bui files of Trnsys15 using trnsys 17 (??)<br>
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Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 16:14:43 +0200<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] open *.bui files of Trnsys15 using trnsys 17<br><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br>Dear Mr. Duffy,<br><br> Thanks for your reply!<br><br>To 1): Do you have some advices for these questions? How could I run this Trnsys 15's *.tpf program by Trnsys 17? Or other way to run it? Since it's very important for me.<br>
<br>To 2): You can open the *.bui ? Really? But once I open its *.bui file, it showed the ERROR. Please see the Attached.<br>Why I can't open this *.bui file( the 3rd and 4th attached)? You can?<br><br>Many thanks!<br>
<br>Br.<br><br>wang
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Date: 2011/5/2<br>Subject: Re: How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys15 using trnsys 17<br>To: <a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>, <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<br><br>Dear Wang,<br><br>1. The blue lines are indeed the undefined connections. The reasons for this is that sometimes as components age through different versions, the inputs of the components are changed or modified.<br>
<br>2. I was able to open the *.bui (NOT the *.bld) without any problems.<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Matt Duffy<br><br><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Dear Mr. Bradley,<br><br> Many thanks! You're right. But when I open the TRNSYS 15's *.tpf file using TRNSYS 17 studio, so many former informations lost, the links' color became BLUE, please see the ATTACHED.<br>
<br> What's more, the TRNBUILD cann't open the former TRNSYS 15's *.bui file directly. It said, "cannot open BUI-File:(c:\trnsys 15\usr\Iwobay.bld)". Please see the 2nd ATTACHED. Please give me some advices to open them completely and keep all the former contents in detail using the TRNSYS 15/prebid/iisibat! I'm very eager to use those former programs.<br>
<br> My support said to me, try to adapt the syntax in the .dec file to TRNSYS 17, but I tried, it still goes blank. Please see the 3rd ATTACHED. How to adapt the syntax in the .dec file to TRNSYS 17?<br><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/15 David BRADLEY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Wang,<br> I just tried and it looks as though File: Open works as expected. The Trnsys17 Studio is used for opening *.tpf files; it will make its best attempt at automatically updating certain simulation parameters that changed between Trnsys15 and Trnsys16. TRNBuild is used for opening *.bui files; it will ask you to redefine your window data as window data was stored in an external file and not in the *.bui itself with Trnsys15.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br><br><br>How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17? Please tell me the detailed steps!<br><br>Thanks in advance!<br><br>br.<br><br>wang<br><br>
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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:44:56 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] time delay by means of type 93 (input value recall)<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Stefan,<br> Type93 simply holds onto a value for as many time steps as you ask it to, then "releases" the value. The control ought to work the same regardless of the system size. I am not sure what you mean by "continuous" controllers. If you mean that there are some controllers that continuously modify a flow rate in order to maintain an outlet temperature then a simple time delay might cause some problems. You might look at some of the controllers available in the TESS Controllers Library (for Trnsys17) as there are a number of devices in there with minimum run times and start-delays.<br>
Best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 4/8/2011 04:05, Stefan Wachter wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Hello everybody,</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I am new at trnsys-users.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Currently I`m modeling an already existing solar heating system (for hot water).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">In this system the loading pump is activated by a time delay of 4 minutes (after solar pump is launched).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I tried to model this as follows:</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">- simulation time step: 2 minutes</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">- storage of the control signal of the solar pump over the last two time steps by means of type 93 (input value recall)</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">- if the control signal of the solar pump is "1" in the stored two time steps, then the loading pump is launched.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">It works (tried by a simple example deck) but does it also works</font> in context with a quite big deck (120 m² apertur area, 2 continuous controllers)?</div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I`m concerned about that the small time step of 2 minutes could cause problems (for example oscillations of the controllers).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Could this work or have someone of you another idea how i can solve this problem?</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Thanks a lot.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Best regards.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Stefan Wachter</font> </div>
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To: Filippo Busato <<a href="mailto:busato@gest.unipd.it" target="_blank">busato@gest.unipd.it</a>><br>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:11:52 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type 860 PCM Storage Units<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Filippo,<br> I am not familiar with Type860. However, there is a PCM wall material component available in the user-donated Type library (TRNLib). <br><br><a href="http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm" target="_blank">http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm</a><br>
<br>best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 4/13/2011 07:52, Filippo Busato wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> I found in the report “Simulation Models of PCM storage units” (IEA Report C5 Subtask C) that a Type 860 has been developed by the Institute HEIG-VD in Yverdon-les-Bains Switzerland, by Jacques Bony and Stephane Citherlet.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I would like to know if that type is distributed and whom could I get/buy that from.</span></p>
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To: <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com" target="_blank">pseudomino@gmx.com</a><br>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:16:16 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Ground Convection coefficient<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">As noted in TRNBuild (where you set the back side convection coefficient), a value smaller than 0.001 is used to indicate direct contact between a BOUNDARY wall and a temperature. A large value (such as 999) is used with other wall categories (ADJACENT, EXTERNAL, etc.) to indicate good thermal contact.<br>
Best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 4/13/2011 10:30, <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com" target="_blank">pseudomino@gmx.com</a> wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Hello,<br><br>Usually, when using the assistant to create a multizone building, the convection coefficient between the soil and the floor is set to 999 to reproduce the absence of thermal resistance.<br>
<br>But when I create a file using the Trnsys3D import from Sketchup, this same coefficient is set by default to 0,001.<br>Why is that ?<br><br>Please help me understand</span></span> <pre><fieldset></fieldset>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17 shading objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I believe that it automatically created one object per surface, it is important to know</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>1.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Is this normal?</span></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">=> Yes this is normal. Thr pluginallows you to draw several shading surfaces into one group because it is more convienent than creating a group for each surface.</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>2.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Does this affect my calculations?<br>=> Yes, this is the required input and therefore it is working fine </span><font face="Wingdings"><span style="font-family: Wingdings;" lang="EN-US">J</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>3.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Can I do something to make it behave properly?<br>=> No, this is the proper behavour</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>4.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Why does outliner window of my skp, even though it produces errors, shows the shading objects properly?<br>
=> because it’s not an error.</span></p>
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<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;"> Lampros Karalis [mailto:<a href="mailto:lkaralis@metal.ntua.gr" target="_blank">lkaralis@metal.ntua.gr</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 13. April 2011 15:23<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:lkaralis@gmail.com" target="_blank">lkaralis@gmail.com</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">I am working with the latest version of the TRNSYS 3d plugin on windows XP and using the trnsys 17.00019 version of the simulation Studio.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">I already have sketched my building and defined the zones in it, as described on the manual. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">The most common problems I have met so far have to do with some error messages when I try to use the skp file. However I read Mr. ‘s Duffy note that we should only use the idf file, and therefore I did not worry.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">My main problem begun when I started drawing the shadow objects that affect my building. I did defined the objects as noted on the tutorial (version June 2010) and on the Outliner Window I could see two Shading Object groups, (one for the nearby building that affect mine and one for a second construction that is attached to my building) Please see attached skp file.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17 shading objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I believe that it automatically created one object per surface, it is important to know</span></font></p>
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Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Is this normal?</span></p>
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Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Does this affect my calculations?</span></p>
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Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Can I do something to make it behave properly?</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>8.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Why does outliner window of my skp, even though it produces errors, shows the shading objects properly?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Any help would be most appreciated, specially on questions #1, #2</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Best Regards</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Lampros Karalis</span></font></p>
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