Dear Mr. Duffy,<br><br>Thanks for your advices!<br><br>But to *.bui file: I indeed hit "OK", but after that, the TRNBuild window disappeared at once! Please send me the TRNBuild window's figure as you said you can open. Let me look at it. And tell me the possible reasons why I can't get it: "but I simply hit "Ok", and everything was fine after that."<br>
<br>I attached them again.<br><br>Thanks again!<br><br>Br.<br><br>wang <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/3 Matt Duffy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear Wang,<br><br>You will likely have to fix all of the undefined connections to make it work in v17. Otherwise, you could simply obtain a copy of TRNSYS15 from your distributor and run your simulation in there.<br><br>Yes, I was able to open the *.bui. There was indeed a warning that popped up, but I simply hit "Ok", and everything was fine after that.<br>
<br>Best regards,<br><font color="#888888"><br>Matt Duffy<br> <br> <br> </font><div style="background-repeat: repeat-x;"><div class="im"><b>----- Original Message -----</b><br><b>From:</b> "王洋" <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>> <br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><b>Sent:</b> Tue, May 3, 2011 9:14<br><b>Subject:</b> open *.bui files of Trnsys15 using trnsys 17<br><br><table width="100%" cellspacing="5"><tbody><tr><td><div> <br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">
<br>Dear Mr. Duffy,<br><br> Thanks for your reply!<br><br>To 1): Do you have some advices for these questions? How could I run this Trnsys 15's *.tpf program by Trnsys 17? Or other way to run it? Since it's very important for me.<br>
<br>To 2): You can open the *.bui ? Really? But once I open its *.bui file, it showed the ERROR. Please see the Attached.<br>Why I can't open this *.bui file( the 3rd and 4th attached)? You can?<br><br>Many thanks!<br>
<br>Br.<br><br>wang <div><div> </div> <div><br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Matt Duffy</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br>
Date: 2011/5/2<br>Subject: Re: How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys15 using trnsys 17<br>To: <a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>, <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<br><br>Dear Wang,<br><br>1. The blue lines are indeed the undefined connections. The reasons for this is that sometimes as components age through different versions, the inputs of the components are changed or modified.<br>
<br>2. I was able to open the *.bui (NOT the *.bld) without any problems.<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Matt Duffy<br><br><br> <div style="background-repeat: repeat-x;"><b>----- Original Message -----</b><br><b>From:</b> "王洋" <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon, May 2, 2011 7:21<br> <b>Subject:</b> [TRNSYS-users] Fwd: R How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys15 using trnsys 17<br><br> <table width="100%" cellspacing="5"> <tbody> <tr> <td><div><br> <div class="gmail_quote">
<div><div> </div> <div><br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">Dear Mr. Bradley,<br><br> Many thanks! You're right. But when I open the TRNSYS 15's *.tpf file using TRNSYS 17 studio, so many former informations lost, the links' color became BLUE, please see the ATTACHED.<br>
<br> What's more, the TRNBUILD cann't open the former TRNSYS 15's *.bui file directly. It said, "cannot open BUI-File:(c:\trnsys 15\usr\Iwobay.bld)". Please see the 2nd ATTACHED. Please give me some advices to open them completely and keep all the former contents in detail using the TRNSYS 15/prebid/iisibat! I'm very eager to use those former programs.<br>
<br> My support said to me, try to adapt the syntax in the .dec file to TRNSYS 17, but I tried, it still goes blank. Please see the 3rd ATTACHED. How to adapt the syntax in the .dec file to TRNSYS 17?<br><br>
Thanks a lot!<br> <br> Br.<br><br>wang <div><div> </div> <div><br><br><br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/15 David BRADLEY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Wang,<br> I just tried and it looks as though File: Open works as expected. The Trnsys17 Studio is used for opening *.tpf files; it will make its best attempt at automatically updating certain simulation parameters that changed between Trnsys15 and Trnsys16. TRNBuild is used for opening *.bui files; it will ask you to redefine your window data as window data was stored in an external file and not in the *.bui itself with Trnsys15.<br>
<font color="#888888">David</font> <div><div> </div> <div><br><br><br>On 4/15/2011 03:18, � wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br><br><br>How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17? Please tell me the detailed steps!<br>
<br>Thanks in advance!<br><br>br.<br><br>wang<br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/14 王洋 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:44:56 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] time delay by means of type 93 (input value recall)<br> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Stefan,<br> Type93 simply holds onto a value for as many time steps as you ask it to, then "releases" the value. The control ought to work the same regardless of the system size. I am not sure what you mean by "continuous" controllers. If you mean that there are some controllers that continuously modify a flow rate in order to maintain an outlet temperature then a simple time delay might cause some problems. You might look at some of the controllers available in the TESS Controllers Library (for Trnsys17) as there are a number of devices in there with minimum run times and start-delays.<br>
Best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 4/8/2011 04:05, Stefan Wachter wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <div style="font-family: Tahoma; direction: ltr; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px;"><div dir="ltr">Hello everybody,</div> <div dir="ltr">
</div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I am new at trnsys-users.</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Currently I`m modeling an already existing solar heating system (for hot water).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">In this system the loading pump is activated by a time delay of 4 minutes (after solar pump is launched).</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I tried to model this as follows:</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">- simulation time step: 2 minutes</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">- storage of the control signal of the solar pump over the last two time steps by means of type 93 (input value recall)</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">- if the control signal of the solar pump is "1" in the stored two time steps, then the loading pump is launched.</font></div> <div dir="ltr"> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">It works (tried by a simple example deck) but does it also works</font> in context with a quite big deck (120 m² apertur area, 2 continuous controllers)?</div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I`m concerned about that the small time step of 2 minutes could cause problems (for example oscillations of the controllers).</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Could this work or have someone of you another idea how i can solve this problem?</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Thanks a lot.</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Best regards.</font></div> <div dir="ltr"> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Stefan Wachter</font> </div>
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To: Filippo Busato <<a href="mailto:busato@gest.unipd.it" target="_blank">busato@gest.unipd.it</a>><br>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:11:52 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type 860 PCM Storage Units<br> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
Filippo,<br> I am not familiar with Type860. However, there is a PCM wall material component available in the user-donated Type library (TRNLib). <br><br><a href="http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm" target="_blank">http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm</a><br>
<br>best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 4/13/2011 07:52, Filippo Busato wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi everybody,</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> I found in the report “Simulation Models of PCM storage units” (IEA Report C5 Subtask C) that a Type 860 has been developed by the Institute HEIG-VD in Yverdon-les-Bains Switzerland, by Jacques Bony and Stephane Citherlet.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I would like to know if that type is distributed and whom could I get/buy that from.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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To: <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com" target="_blank">pseudomino@gmx.com</a><br>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:16:16 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Ground Convection coefficient<br> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
As noted in TRNBuild (where you set the back side convection coefficient), a value smaller than 0.001 is used to indicate direct contact between a BOUNDARY wall and a temperature. A large value (such as 999) is used with other wall categories (ADJACENT, EXTERNAL, etc.) to indicate good thermal contact.<br>
Best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 4/13/2011 10:30, <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com" target="_blank">pseudomino@gmx.com</a> wrote: <blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Hello,<br>
<br>Usually, when using the assistant to create a multizone building, the convection coefficient between the soil and the floor is set to 999 to reproduce the absence of thermal resistance.<br> <br>But when I create a file using the Trnsys3D import from Sketchup, this same coefficient is set by default to 0,001.<br>
Why is that ?<br><br>Please help me understand</span></span> <pre><fieldset></fieldset>
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To: trnsys-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:14:43 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question<br> <p> </p>
<div vlink="purple" link="blue" lang="DE"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000080" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Dear Lampros,</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal">
<font color="#000080" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000080" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17 shading objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I believe that it automatically created one object per surface, it is important to know</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>1.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Is this normal?</span></p> <p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">=> Yes this is normal. Thr pluginallows you to draw several shading surfaces into one group because it is more convienent than creating a group for each surface.</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>2.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Does this affect my calculations?<br>=> Yes, this is the required input and therefore it is working fine </span><font face="Wingdings"><span style="font-family: Wingdings;" lang="EN-US">J</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>3.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Can I do something to make it behave properly?<br>=> No, this is the proper behavour</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>4.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Why does outliner window of my skp, even though it produces errors, shows the shading objects properly?<br>
=> because it’s not an error.</span></p> <p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p> <p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p> <p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Marion</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal">
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</span></font></div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;"> Lampros Karalis [mailto:<a href="mailto:lkaralis@metal.ntua.gr" target="_blank">lkaralis@metal.ntua.gr</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 13. April 2011 15:23<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:lkaralis@gmail.com" target="_blank">lkaralis@gmail.com</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question</span></font></p>
</div> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Dear All,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">I am working with the latest version of the TRNSYS 3d plugin on windows XP and using the trnsys 17.00019 version of the simulation Studio.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">I already have sketched my building and defined the zones in it, as described on the manual. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">The most common problems I have met so far have to do with some error messages when I try to use the skp file. However I read Mr. ‘s Duffy note that we should only use the idf file, and therefore I did not worry.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">My main problem begun when I started drawing the shadow objects that affect my building. I did defined the objects as noted on the tutorial (version June 2010) and on the Outliner Window I could see two Shading Object groups, (one for the nearby building that affect mine and one for a second construction that is attached to my building) Please see attached skp file.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">When I saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window showed 17 shading objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I believe that it automatically created one object per surface, it is important to know</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>5.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Is this normal?</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>6.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Does this affect my calculations?</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 54pt;">
<font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>7.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Can I do something to make it behave properly?</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 54pt;">
<font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>8.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Why does outliner window of my skp, even though it produces errors, shows the shading objects properly?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Any help would be most appreciated, specially on questions #1, #2</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Best Regards</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Lampros Karalis</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font></p>
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