Dear Mr. Bradley,<br><br> Many thanks! You're right. But
when I open the TRNSYS 15's *.tpf file using TRNSYS 17 studio, so many
former informations lost, the links' color became BLUE, please see the
ATTACHED.<br>
<br> What's more, the TRNBUILD cann't open the former
TRNSYS 15's *.bui file directly. It said, "cannot open
BUI-File:(c:\trnsys 15\usr\Iwobay.bld)". Please see the 2nd ATTACHED.
Please give me some advices to open them completely and keep all the
former contents in detail using the TRNSYS 15/prebid/iisibat! I'm very
eager to use those former programs.<br>
<br> My support said to me, try to adapt the syntax in the
.dec file to TRNSYS 17, but I tried, it still goes blank. Please see the
3rd ATTACHED. How to adapt the syntax in the .dec file to TRNSYS 17?<br><br>
Thanks a lot!<br><br> Br.<br><br>wang<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/18 王洋 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><div><div class="h5"><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/15 David BRADLEY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Wang,<br>
I just tried and it looks as though File: Open works as expected.
The Trnsys17 Studio is used for opening *.tpf files; it will make
its best attempt at automatically updating certain simulation
parameters that changed between Trnsys15 and Trnsys16. TRNBuild is
used for opening *.bui files; it will ask you to redefine your
window data as window data was stored in an external file and not in
the *.bui itself with Trnsys15.<br><font color="#888888">
David</font><div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 4/15/2011 03:18, � wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br>
<br>
<br>
How to open *.tpf and *.bui files of Trnsys 15 using trnsys 17?
Please tell me the detailed steps!<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance!<br>
<br>
br.<br>
<br>
wang<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/14 王洋 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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1. Re: time delay by means of type 93 (input value
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(David BRADLEY)<br>
2. Re: type 860 PCM Storage Units (David BRADLEY)<br>
3. Re: Ground Convection coefficient (David BRADLEY)<br>
4. Re: TRNSYS3D plugin question (Marion Hiller)<br>
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To: Stefan Wachter <<a href="mailto:wachter@mail.hs-ulm.de" target="_blank">wachter@mail.hs-ulm.de</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:44:56 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] time delay by means of type 93
(input value recall)<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Stefan,<br>
Type93 simply holds onto a value for as many time
steps as you ask it to, then "releases" the value. The
control ought to work the same regardless of the system
size. I am not sure what you mean by "continuous"
controllers. If you mean that there are some controllers
that continuously modify a flow rate in order to
maintain an outlet temperature then a simple time delay
might cause some problems. You might look at some of the
controllers available in the TESS Controllers Library
(for Trnsys17) as there are a number of devices in there
with minimum run times and start-delays.<br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
<br>
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On 4/8/2011 04:05, Stefan Wachter wrote:
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<div style="font-family: Tahoma; direction: ltr; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px;">
<div dir="ltr">Hello everybody,</div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I am new
at trnsys-users.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Currently
I`m modeling an already existing solar heating
system (for hot water).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">In this
system the loading pump is activated by a time
delay of 4 minutes (after solar pump
is launched).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I tried
to model this as follows:</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">-
simulation time step: 2 minutes</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">-
storage of the control signal of the solar pump
over the last two time steps by means of type 93
(input value recall)</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">- if the
control signal of the solar pump is "1" in the
stored two time steps, then the loading pump is
launched.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">It works
(tried by a simple example deck) but does it
also works</font> in context with a quite big
deck (120 m² apertur area, 2 continuous
controllers)?</div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">I`m
concerned about that the small time step of 2
minutes could cause problems (for example
oscillations of the controllers).</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Could
this work or have someone of you another idea
how i can solve this problem?</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Thanks a
lot.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Best
regards.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">Stefan
Wachter</font> </div>
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To: Filippo Busato <<a href="mailto:busato@gest.unipd.it" target="_blank">busato@gest.unipd.it</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:11:52 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type 860 PCM Storage Units<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Filippo,<br>
I am not familiar with Type860. However, there is a PCM
wall material component available in the user-donated
Type library (TRNLib). <br>
<br>
<a href="http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm" target="_blank">http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm</a><br>
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best,<br>
David<br>
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On 4/13/2011 07:52, Filippo Busato wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi
everybody,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> I
found in the report “Simulation Models of PCM
storage units” (IEA Report C5 Subtask C) that a
Type 860 has been developed by the Institute
HEIG-VD in Yverdon-les-Bains Switzerland, by
Jacques Bony and Stephane Citherlet.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I would like
to know if that type is distributed and whom
could I get/buy that from.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Can anyone
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To: <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com" target="_blank">pseudomino@gmx.com</a><br>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:16:16 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Ground Convection coefficient<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> As noted in
TRNBuild (where you set the back side convection
coefficient), a value smaller than 0.001 is used to
indicate direct contact between a BOUNDARY wall and a
temperature. A large value (such as 999) is used with
other wall categories (ADJACENT, EXTERNAL, etc.) to
indicate good thermal contact.<br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
On 4/13/2011 10:30, <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com" target="_blank">pseudomino@gmx.com</a>
wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Hello,<br>
<br>
Usually, when using the assistant to create a
multizone building, the convection coefficient
between the soil and the floor is set to 999 to
reproduce the absence of thermal resistance.<br>
<br>
But when I create a file using the Trnsys3D import
from Sketchup, this same coefficient is set by
default to 0,001.<br>
Why is that ?<br>
<br>
Please help me understand</span></span>
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Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D plugin question<br>
<p>
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<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="DE">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Dear Lampros,</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">When I
saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window
showed 17 shading
objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I
believe that it automatically
created one object per surface, it is important
to know</span></font>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>1.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Is this normal?</span>
</p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">=> Yes
this is normal. Thr pluginallows you to draw
several shading surfaces into one group because
it is more convienent than
creating a group for each surface.</span></font>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>2.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Does this affect
my calculations?<br>
=> Yes, this is the required input and
therefore it is working fine </span><font face="Wingdings"><span style="font-family: Wingdings;" lang="EN-US">J</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>3.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Can I do
something to make it behave properly?<br>
=> No, this is the proper behavour</span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>4.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Why does outliner
window of my skp, even though it produces errors,
shows the shading
objects properly?<br>
=> because it’s not an error.</span>
</p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Best
regards,</span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Lampros Karalis
[mailto:<a href="mailto:lkaralis@metal.ntua.gr" target="_blank">lkaralis@metal.ntua.gr</a>]
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b>
Mittwoch, 13. April 2011
15:23<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:lkaralis@gmail.com" target="_blank">lkaralis@gmail.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b>
[TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS3D
plugin question</span></font><font face="Times
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Dear All,</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">I am
working with the latest version of the TRNSYS 3d
plugin on windows
XP and using the trnsys 17.00019 version of the
simulation Studio.</span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">I already
have sketched my building and defined the zones
in it, as
described on the manual. </span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">The most
common problems I have met so far have to do
with some error
messages when I try to use the skp file. However
I read Mr. ‘s Duffy note
that we should only use the idf file, and
therefore I did not worry.</span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">My main
problem begun when I started drawing the shadow
objects that
affect my building. I did defined the objects
as noted on the tutorial
(version June 2010) and on the Outliner Window I
could see two Shading Object
groups, (one for the nearby building that affect
mine and one for a second
construction that is attached to my building)
Please see attached skp file.</span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">When I
saved and reopen the idf file, Outiner window
showed 17 shading
objects (!) see attached idf file. Even though I
believe that it automatically
created one object per surface, it is important
to know</span></font>
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<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>5.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Is this normal?</span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>6.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Does this affect
my calculations?</span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>7.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Can I do
something to make it behave properly?</span>
</p>
<p style="margin-left: 54pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"><span>8.<font face="Times New
Roman" size="1"><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";">
</span></font></span></span></font><span lang="EN-US">Why does outliner
window of my skp, even though it produces errors,
shows the shading
objects properly?</span>
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</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Any help
would be most appreciated, specially on
questions #1, #2</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Best
Regards</span></font>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="EN-US">Lampros
Karalis</span></font>
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