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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> pseudomino@gmx.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> AW: [TRNSYS-users] Type
99 and units</span></font><o:p></o:p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the data file
radiation data is assumed to be in W/m² if you use the following definition of
“mult” and “add”<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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IBEAM_H <col> 5
<interp> 0 <add> 0 <mult>
1 <samp> -1 </span></font></i></em><strong><b><i><font
face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;font-style:italic'>!...to get
radiation in W/m²</span></font></i></b></strong>"<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Verdana><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Nevertheless, the outputs are converted within the
Type into “kJ/ hr m²” . Therefore, you don’t need an
equation!<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 14. April
2011 11:32<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] Type 99
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Thank you,<br>
So I won't use these pull-down menus and use Equations instead to covert them.<br>
<br>
But I need a simple confirmation about my question : when I use a Type 99, the
radiations :<br>
- are given in W/m2<br>
-mulitiplied by 3.6 to be outputed in kJ/hr.m2<br>
Am I right ?<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Objet : Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 99
/ 109 and units<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=red face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red'>Be very careful!!! You cannot change units
using the pulldown menu in <i><span style='font-style:italic'>any</span></i>
component's inputs tab!!!</span></font><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> A component's output values are
passed directly to the appropriate component input values without any
modification regardless of what units you have selected in the inputs or
outputs tab. Those pulldown menus are only at the interface level; when the
Studio writes the deck file, it writes everything in the base units of the
proforma. Note that it is safe to change the units of parameters (and
unconnected inputs) again because they will be converted to base units when the
Studio writes the deck.<br>
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We do not recommend using Type109. Type109's functionality was moved to Type99
(for the "user-defined" data file mode) and to Type15 (for the
standard TRY file format). If you find references to Type109 in the
documentation, please let us know so that we can refer to the proper component
instead!<br>
Regards,<br>
David<br>
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On 4/13/2011 03:29, <a href="mailto:pseudomino@gmx.com">pseudomino@gmx.com</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Hello there,<br>
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I have a doubt with my units. I use a Type 99 and I can see in the Outputs tab
"<strong><b><font face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'>kJ/hr.m^2</span></font></b></strong>"
for the radiations.<br>
But in the exemple file (of user defined file), there is this line :<br>
"<em><i><font face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'><var>
IBEAM_H <col> 5
<interp> 0 <add> 0 <mult>
1 <samp> -1 </span></font></i></em><strong><b><i><font
face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;font-style:italic'>!...to get
radiation in W/m²</span></font></i></b></strong>"<br>
So I wonder if I can ignore this unit in type 99 (kJ/hr.m^2) and just change it
to W/m^2 in type 56's Inputs tab.<br>
<br>
By the way, I don't realy understand what is type 109 ? It is often mentionned
in the user guide, but it seems that it is a generic component ?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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