There are two ways to open the *.idf. <br />
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1.) the Plugins menu: Plugins --> Trnsys3d --> Open<br />
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2.) the T3d open icon (see attached)<br />
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Again, do not save any *.skp, do not worry about any *.skp, and do not open any *.skp. All of the information is in the *.idf.<br />
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Best regards,<br />
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Matt Duffy<br />
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<strong>From:</strong> "王洋" <wanghongyang1767@gmail.com> <br />
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thu, March 31, 2011 7:33<br />
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TRNSYS-users] open the former *.skp file with TRNSYS3D<br />
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                Thanks! But how to open the *.idf file? By what? Simulation Studio or Sketchup etc.?<br />
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                Many thanks!<br />
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               Br.<br />
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            wang<br />
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            <div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/31 Matt Duffy <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_new" href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br />
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            Dear TRNSYS Users,<br />
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            There seems to be this question very often. Please remember to work in the TRNSYS3D plugin (Open, Save, Close the *.idf) and NOT open/close/save in SketchUp (*.skp). You do not even need to save any *.skp.<br />
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            Thank you,<br />
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            Matt Duffy<br />
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            <b>From:</b> "王洋" <<a target="_new" href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>> <br />
            <b>Sent:</b> Thu, March 31, 2011 3:02<br />
            <b>Subject:</b> [TRNSYS-users] open the former *.skp file with TRNSYS3D<br />
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                        <div class="h5">Dear all,<br />
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                           How to open the former *.skp file correctly?<br />
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                          When I open it, it always shows as follows:<br />
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                        Sorry...the plugin has encountered an error.  This error may cause unpredictable behavior in the plugin--continue this session with caution!  It would probably be a good idea to exit SketchUp and start again.<br />
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                        For help, please contact the TRNSYS newsgroup by <a target="_new" href="https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users">https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users</a> .<br />
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                         When reporting a bug, please include the error message and backtrace below (scroll down):<br />
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                        ERROR:<br />
                        NameError<br />
                        wrong constant name lorScaleInterface<br />
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                        C:/Programme/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `const_get'<br />
                        C:/Programme/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `restore_state'<br />
                        C:/Programme/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `initialize'<br />
                        C:/Programme/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:13:in `call'<br />
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                        Please give some suggustions!<br />
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                        Many thanks!<br />
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                        Br.<br />
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                        wang<br />
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/30  <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br />
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Send TRNSYS-users mailing list submissions to<br />
                               <a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br />
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                        To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br />
                               <a target="_new" href="https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users">https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><br />
                        or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br />
                               <a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a><br />
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                        You can reach the person managing the list at<br />
                               <a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users-owner@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users-owner@cae.wisc.edu</a><br />
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                        When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br />
                        than "Re: Contents of TRNSYS-users digest..."<br />
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                        Today's Topics:<br />
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                          1. problem of IDF File from Sketchup8 in TRNBUILD (Pauline GELIN)<br />
                          2. Polymer PV-T absorber/ Type 560 (Philip Horn)<br />
                          3. trnsys3d pug-in sketchup8 : problem of adjacent wall for<br />
                             several others zones (Pauline GELIN)<br />
                          4. Re: Soil noding plugin for Googlesketchup. (Jeff Thornton)<br />
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                        From: Pauline GELIN <<a target="_new" href="mailto:p.gelin@katene.fr">p.gelin@katene.fr</a>><br />
                        To: "<a target="_new" href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>" <<a target="_new" href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br />
                        Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:21:13 +0200<br />
                        Subject: [TRNSYS-users] problem of IDF File from Sketchup8 in TRNBUILD<br />
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">(SketchUp 8 (with some hours on Sketchup Pro eval), Operating system:Windows Vista)</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">From a 2D plan created in Nova, I had to create in 3D each zone/room separated to, after, copy them in one different trnsys3d zone for each. </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">After I had to identify each adjacent wall between all the rooms. </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Then, I saved a IDf File and wanted to import it in TRNBuild. </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">There was this following message : </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">"Zone: ARCH 1 Airnode: ARCH1 (it is the nam of one of my rooms)</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Wall must have an active layer or chilled ceiling layer or must be adjacent to a different zone</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">ADJ_WALL Surf 13</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">"</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I don't understand what this means because this room includes 3 external walls and only one adj_wall.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> And as on Sketchup we can't identify several adjacent rooms, I linked this adj_wall with the room with the most common surface which is even not 13m&sup2;. </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Is there anyone who can tell me what I can change to succeed my import ?</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you so much for your help.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Best Regards,</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Pauline Gelin</p>
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                        From: Philip Horn <<a target="_new" href="mailto:phorn@fraunhofer.org">phorn@fraunhofer.org</a>><br />
                        To: "<a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu</a>" <<a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu</a>><br />
                        Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:49:56 -0400<br />
                        Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Polymer PV-T absorber/ Type 560<br />
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">I want to simulate an unglazed  polymer PV-T collector in TRNSYS.</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">I was wondering if anyone has done this already, or could give some advice?</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">My plan is to take Type 560 and modify some parameters (heat conductivity, heat transfer coefficients (want to model rectangular “tubes”).</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">It must not be 100% accurate in the beginning, more like a first estimation.</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Would be glad if someone could give some helpful input.</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Best Regards,</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Philip</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black;">Philip Horn</span></b><span style="color: black;"><br />
                        <b>Fraunhofer Center for Sustainable Energy Systems CSE</b><br />
                        25 First Street</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Cambridge, MA 02141, U.S.A.<br />
                        +1 617-575 7250 x139<br />
                        </span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; color: black;"><a target="_new" href="mailto:astokes@fraunhofer.org"><span style="color: blue;">phorn@fraunhofer.org</span></a><br />
                        </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a target="_new" href="http://cse.fraunhofer.org/"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; color: blue;">http://cse.fraunhofer.org/</span></a></span></p>
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                        The contents of this email and any files or attachments transmitted with it, unless otherwise indicated, are confidential and/or privileged.  The recipient may not use this message and any attachment for other than its intended purpose.</span></p>
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                        From: Pauline GELIN <<a target="_new" href="mailto:p.gelin@katene.fr">p.gelin@katene.fr</a>><br />
                        To: "<a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>" <<a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br />
                        Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:23:19 +0200<br />
                        Subject: [TRNSYS-users] trnsys3d pug-in sketchup8 : problem of adjacent wall for several others zones<br />
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";">SketchUp version:sketchup8<br />
                        Operating system:windows xp<br />
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                        I am so sorry to ask a so easy question but I didn't find how to link a wall to several others zones. <br />
                        Indeed, in the object info we can only choose one zone. <br />
                        But, if I cut my zone into 2 parts and, for example, erase the adjacent wall to recreate it in trnbuild, after, there is no more interest to use sketchup and it would be quicker to do everything in trnbuild. <br />
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                        Is there anyone who already met this problem? <br />
                        Do you have a solution ?<br />
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                        Thanks a lot in advance for your help. <br />
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                        Best regards, <br />
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                        Pauline Gelin. </span></p>
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                        From: "Jeff Thornton" <<a target="_new" href="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com">thornton@tess-inc.com</a>><br />
                        To: "Sébastien THOMAS" <<a target="_new" href="mailto:sebastien.thomas@ulg.ac.be">sebastien.thomas@ulg.ac.be</a>>, <a target="_new" href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br />
                        Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:48:25 -0500 (CDT)<br />
                        Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Soil noding plugin for Googlesketchup.<br />
                        <I am attempting to run the « Soil Noding 2D » plugin for sketchup.<br />
                        Unfortunately I did not reach to build any mesh in the text file.   In<br />
                        fact, I have the following messages but no mesh at the end of the<br />
                        procedure :      TESS Soil & Slab Noding program for TRNSYS 17.  How far<br />
                        the building is the temperature of the soil assumed unaffected by the<br />
                        building….     Has someone good knowledge of this plugin ?  ><br />
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                        Did you answer the question posed by the plugin?  Put in something like 10<br />
                        meters and hit enter.  Then continue to answer the questions until the<br />
                        program informs you that the data file has been created.  We use it all<br />
                        the time!<br />
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                        Jeff<br />
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                        Jeff Thornton<br />
                        President - TESS, LLC<br />
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                        22 North Carroll Street - Suite 370<br />
                        Madison WI 53703 USA<br />
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                        Phone: 608-274-2577<br />
                        Fax: 608-278-1475<br />
                        E-mail: <a target="_new" href="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com">thornton@tess-inc.com</a><br />
                        Web: <a target="_new" href="http://www.tess-inc.com">www.tess-inc.com</a><br />
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