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Just in case it is not clear, it is also worth mentioning that an
*.idf file exists only if the SketchUp drawing was saved by the
Trnsys3D plugin as a *.idf file. If what you are drawing in SketchUp
is shades of grey, chances are that you are not drawing with the
Trnsys3D plugin but with SketchUp itself; in this case there won't
be anything for the plugin to save as it does not "see" SketchUp
objects. If the shapes that you are drawing turn yellow (for walls)
and red (for roofs) then you are drawing in the Trnsys3D plugin and
you can save (and then later reopen) the *.idf file. Bear in mind
that you save the *.idf using the save icon in the Trnsys3D toolbar
NOT by selecting "save" from the "file" menu.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 3/31/2011 07:48, Matt Duffy wrote:
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cite="mid:1301575718.v2.mailanyonewebmail-331886@fuseweb2e"
type="cite">There are two ways to open the *.idf. <br>
<br>
1.) the Plugins menu: Plugins --> Trnsys3d --> Open<br>
<br>
2.) the T3d open icon (see attached)<br>
<br>
<br>
Again, do not save any *.skp, do not worry about any *.skp, and do
not open any *.skp. All of the information is in the *.idf.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Matt Duffy<br>
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<strong>Sent:</strong> Thu, March 31, 2011 7:33<br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TRNSYS-users] open the former
*.skp file with TRNSYS3D<br>
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Dear Mr. Duffy,<br>
<br>
Thanks! But how to open the *.idf file? By what?
Simulation Studio or Sketchup etc.?<br>
<br>
Many thanks!<br>
<br>
Br.<br>
<br>
wang<br>
<br>
<br>
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Dear TRNSYS Users,<br>
<br>
There seems to be this question very often. Please
remember to work in the TRNSYS3D plugin (Open,
Save, Close the *.idf) and NOT open/close/save in
SketchUp (*.skp). You do not even need to save any
*.skp.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Matt Duffy<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thu, March 31, 2011 3:02<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TRNSYS-users] open the
former *.skp file with TRNSYS3D<br>
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<div class="h5">Dear all,<br>
<br>
How to open the former *.skp
file correctly?<br>
<br>
When I open it, it always shows
as follows:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sorry...the plugin has encountered
an error. This error may cause
unpredictable behavior in the
plugin--continue this session with
caution! It would probably be a
good idea to exit SketchUp and
start again.<br>
<br>
For help, please contact the
TRNSYS newsgroup by <a
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href="https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users">https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users</a>
.<br>
<br>
When reporting a bug, please
include the error message and
backtrace below (scroll down):<br>
<br>
ERROR:<br>
NameError<br>
wrong constant name
lorScaleInterface<br>
<br>
BACKTRACE:<br>
C:/Programme/Google/Google
SketchUp
7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
`const_get'<br>
C:/Programme/Google/Google
SketchUp
7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
`restore_state'<br>
C:/Programme/Google/Google
SketchUp
7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
`initialize'<br>
C:/Programme/Google/Google
SketchUp
7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:13:in
`call'<br>
<br>
Please give some suggustions!<br>
<br>
Many thanks!<br>
<br>
Br.<br>
<br>
wang<br>
<br>
<br>
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Today's Topics:<br>
<br>
1. problem of IDF File from
Sketchup8 in TRNBUILD (Pauline
GELIN)<br>
2. Polymer PV-T absorber/
Type 560 (Philip Horn)<br>
3. trnsys3d pug-in sketchup8
: problem of adjacent wall for<br>
several others zones
(Pauline GELIN)<br>
4. Re: Soil noding plugin
for Googlesketchup. (Jeff
Thornton)<br>
<br>
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From: Pauline GELIN <<a
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href="mailto:p.gelin@katene.fr">p.gelin@katene.fr</a>><br>
To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011
15:21:13 +0200<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users]
problem of IDF File from
Sketchup8 in TRNBUILD<br>
<div link="blue"
vlink="purple" lang="FR">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">(SketchUp
8 (with some hours on
Sketchup Pro eval),
Operating
system:Windows Vista)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">From a 2D
plan created in Nova,
I had to create in 3D
each zone/room
separated to, after,
copy them in one
different trnsys3d
zone for each. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">After I
had to identify each
adjacent wall between
all the rooms. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">Then, I
saved a IDf File and
wanted to import it in
TRNBuild. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">There was
this following message
: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">"Zone:
ARCH 1 Airnode: ARCH1
(it is the nam of one
of my rooms)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">Wall must
have an active layer
or chilled ceiling
layer or must be
adjacent to a
different zone</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">ADJ_WALL
Surf 13</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">"</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">I don't
understand what this
means because this
room includes 3
external walls and
only one adj_wall.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US"> And as
on Sketchup we can't
identify several
adjacent rooms, I
linked this adj_wall
with the room with the
most common surface
which is even not
13m². </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">Is there
anyone who can tell me
what I can change to
succeed my import ?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">Thank you
so much for your help.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best
Regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pauline
Gelin</p>
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From: Philip Horn <<a
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href="mailto:phorn@fraunhofer.org">phorn@fraunhofer.org</a>><br>
To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
target="_new"
href="mailto:trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011
09:49:56 -0400<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users]
Polymer PV-T absorber/ Type
560<br>
<div link="blue"
vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear
All,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
want to simulate an
unglazed polymer PV-T
collector in TRNSYS.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I was
wondering if anyone has
done this already, or
could give some advice?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My
plan is to take Type 560
and modify some
parameters (heat
conductivity, heat
transfer coefficients
(want to model
rectangular “tubes”).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It
must not be 100%
accurate in the
beginning, more like a
first estimation.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Would
be glad if someone could
give some helpful input.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best
Regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Philip</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="color:
black;">Philip Horn</span></b><span
style="color: black;"><br>
<b>Fraunhofer Center
for Sustainable
Energy Systems CSE</b><br>
25 First Street</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color: black;">Cambridge,
MA 02141, U.S.A.<br>
+1 617-575 7250 x139<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:
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From: Pauline GELIN <<a
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To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011
18:23:19 +0200<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users]
trnsys3d pug-in sketchup8 :
problem of adjacent wall for
several others zones<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:
12pt; font-family:
"Times New
Roman","serif";"
lang="EN-US">SketchUp
version:sketchup8<br>
Operating
system:windows xp<br>
<br>
<br>
I am so sorry to ask a
so easy question but I
didn't find how to
link a wall to several
others zones. <br>
Indeed, in the object
info we can only
choose one zone. <br>
But, if I cut my zone
into 2 parts and, for
example, erase the
adjacent wall to
recreate it in
trnbuild, after, there
is no more interest to
use sketchup and it
would be quicker to do
everything in
trnbuild. <br>
<br>
Is there anyone who
already met this
problem? <br>
Do you have a solution
?<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot in
advance for your help.
<br>
<br>
Best regards, <br>
<br>
Pauline Gelin. </span></p>
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To: "Sébastien THOMAS" <<a
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011
11:48:25 -0500 (CDT)<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users]
Soil noding plugin for
Googlesketchup.<br>
<I am attempting to run the
« Soil Noding 2D » plugin for
sketchup.<br>
Unfortunately I did not reach
to build any mesh in the text
file. In<br>
fact, I have the following
messages but no mesh at the
end of the<br>
procedure : TESS Soil
& Slab Noding program for
TRNSYS 17. How far<br>
the building is the
temperature of the soil
assumed unaffected by the<br>
building…. Has someone
good knowledge of this plugin
? ><br>
<br>
Did you answer the question
posed by the plugin? Put in
something like 10<br>
meters and hit enter. Then
continue to answer the
questions until the<br>
program informs you that the
data file has been created.
We use it all<br>
the time!<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
<br>
Jeff Thornton<br>
President - TESS, LLC<br>
<br>
22 North Carroll Street -
Suite 370<br>
Madison WI 53703 USA<br>
<br>
Phone: 608-274-2577<br>
Fax: 608-278-1475<br>
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Web: <a
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