Dear Mr. Bradley,<br><br>     Many thanks for your reply!<br><br>   Please see the ATTACHED! They are .tpf and .bui files. The living room is the test room, its ambient room is kitchen.<br><br>    To solar incident: Yes, I didn't define solar incident on my building. <br>
<br>  To 2nd: I used the TRNBUILD Wall's  default convective heat transfer coefficient:11 kJ/h*m^2*K and 64 
 kJ/h*m^2*K to calculate the Q Heat loss.<br><br>  I calculated the different u-value of different wall types based on the test room's actual data.<br><br> To 3rd: The test room(living room) has no windows.<br><br>To 4th: Yes, there is no internal gains and no infiltration and ventilation in my building.<br>
<br>To 5th: Yes, the living room's ambient room is kitchen. Kitchen's indoor air temperature is also keeping 20°C from initial temperature.<br><br>To 6th: I defined all the wall and floor boundary temperature of the test room (except the  ambient wall next to the kitchen) are 10°C.<br>
<br>To 7th: I defined initial indoor air temperatures of the test room and kitchen are 20°C, other wall's initial boundary temperature is 10°C<br><br><br>All in all,  the
      result of QHEAT in TRNSYS is 6600 kJ/day, but the heat loss by
      Heat transfer equations is 24000 kJ/day.<br><br>Please help me find the possible reasons.<br><br>MAny thanks!<br><br>Br.<br><br>wang<br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/10 David BRADLEY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>></span><br>
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    Wang,<br>
      QHEAT is the amount of sensible energy that has to be added to a
    space to maintain it at its set point temperature. I am highly
    skeptical that it is possible or even correct to try and "verify"
    Type56 using steady state hand calculations. Type56 takes into
    account hundreds of interdependent phenomena and holding something
    like indoor/outdoor temperature difference constant is no guarantee
    that all of them will be constant. A few comments about your test: 
    I assume you do not have any solar incident on your building as that
    would have a significant impact on QHEAT. Second, Type56 dynamically
    calculates (and can output) the convective heat transfer coefficient
    on the inside and outside surface of each wall. Those coefficients
    impact the overall u-value of the wall; make sure that you are using
    the same u-value in your hand calc as Type56 is using. Third;
    windows pose an even more complex problem as they are modeled as
    having a frame u-value, and a center of glass u-value that I believe
    is derated to account for edge effects. Make certain that the
    u-value you are using in your hand calculations and the u-value that
    Type56 is calculating are the same. Fourth, I assume that you have
    no internal gains, infiltration, or ventilation in your building
    either as these also would impact QHEAT. Fifth, if your building has
    multiple zones, make certain that all of them are at the same
    temperature. Sixth, if you are modeling a floor that is coupled to a
    boundary temperature, there is probably energy transfer through that
    surface. Seventh, the Type56 zones all have initial conditions; make
    certain that your calculation is done long after the start of the
    simulation to avoid any leftover transient effects.<br>
    David<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 3/10/2011 10:58, 王洋 wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br>
      <br>
         I want to know what is the QHEAT caculation model in TRNSYS?
      Because I assumed a situation: The indoor and outdoor temperature
      keep the constant all the time, based on the Energy Balance the
      QHEAT must be equal to the heat loss through the walls. But the
      result of QHEAT in TRNSYS is 6600 kJ/day, but the heat loss by
      Heat transfer equations is 24000 kJ/day. So I want to know  what
      is the QHEAT caculation model in TRNSYS? Why both of them are so
      much defferent?<br>
      <br>
      Many thanks!<br>
      <br>
      br.<br>
      <br>
      wang<br>
      <br>
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          Today's Topics:<br>
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            1. problem in trnbuild (Serban Cristina)<br>
            2. Re: problem in trnbuild (Matt Duffy)<br>
            3. Type 927 W/W heat pump (Partenay, Vincent)<br>
            4. Re: Type 927 W/W heat pump (Matt Duffy)<br>
            5. Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS (??)<br>
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          From: Serban Cristina <<a href="mailto:cristina.serban@unitbv.ro" target="_blank">cristina.serban@unitbv.ro</a>><br>
          To: <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
          Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:33:42 +0200<br>
          Subject: [TRNSYS-users] problem in trnbuild<br>
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            Dear trnsys users,<br>
            <br>
            I am a new user of TRNSYS and I have encountered some
            problems.<br>
            <br>
            I created a multizone building in simulation studio, and
            when I edited the building in trnbuild I created a new wall
            but I haven't defined layers in it.<br>
            Now when I try to edit the building to define the wall the
            error: no layers defined in mtype13 appears. I click ok and
            trnbuild closes.<br>
            How can I define my wall? is there a way? or do I have to
            start over again?<br>
            <br>
            My building has 4 zones but they are displayed on 2 levels
            (floors). Is there a way to automatically create the
            building on 2 levels? <br>
            In trnbuild each zone has 5 walls. If I add a new wall type
            (e.g. ceiling) to each zone will the building be with two
            levels? <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            P.S. I tried using the trnsys3d plugin but it doesn't work.
            It gives me too many errors.  <br>
            <br>
            PhD. Cristina SERBAN<br>
            Transilvania University of Brasov<br>
            Department of Renewable Energy Systems and Recycling<br>
            <br>
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          From: Matt Duffy <<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
          To: Serban Cristina <<a href="mailto:cristina.serban@unitbv.ro" target="_blank">cristina.serban@unitbv.ro</a>><br>
          Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:25:48 -0600<br>
          Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem in trnbuild<br>
          Dear Cristina,<br>
          <br>
          Since you are a new user, I am going to suggest that you
          instead use and learn the Trnsys3D plugin for Google SketchUp.
          There is a great tutorial that will walk you through
          everything, it is simple to apply multiple zones, add windows,
          and shading. After you import this Trnsys3d (*.idf) file into
          TrnBuild, you can indeed change the wall constructions. Please
          give it a try and let me know if you have any questions.<br>
          <br>
          Best regards,<br>
          <br>
          Matt Duffy<br>
          Thermal Energy Systems Specialists<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Sent from my mobile wireless device. Please excuse any typos.<br>
          <br>
          On Mar 10, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Serban Cristina <<a href="mailto:cristina.serban@unitbv.ro" target="_blank">cristina.serban@unitbv.ro</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          <br>
          > Dear trnsys users,<br>
          ><br>
          > I am a new user of TRNSYS and I have encountered some
          problems.<br>
          ><br>
          > I created a multizone building in simulation studio, and
          when I edited the building in trnbuild I created a new wall
          but I haven't defined layers in it.<br>
          > Now when I try to edit the building to define the wall
          the error: no layers defined in mtype13 appears. I click ok
          and trnbuild closes.<br>
          > How can I define my wall? is there a way? or do I have to
          start over again?<br>
          ><br>
          > My building has 4 zones but they are displayed on 2
          levels (floors). Is there a way to automatically create the
          building on 2 levels?<br>
          > In trnbuild each zone has 5 walls. If I add a new wall
          type (e.g. ceiling) to each zone will the building be with two
          levels?<br>
          ><br>
          ><br>
          > P.S. I tried using the trnsys3d plugin but it doesn't
          work. It gives me too many errors.<br>
          ><br>
          > PhD. Cristina SERBAN<br>
          > Transilvania University of Brasov<br>
          > Department of Renewable Energy Systems and Recycling<br>
          ><br>
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          From: "Partenay, Vincent" <<a href="mailto:vincent.partenay@cstb.fr" target="_blank">vincent.partenay@cstb.fr</a>><br>
          To: "<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>"
          <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
          Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:01:25 +0000<br>
          Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Type 927 W/W heat pump<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Dear all,</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US">I’m working with the new type 927
                  and I would like to get some information about how it
                  works</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US">Is there an available  detailed
                  documentation of Type 927 ?</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US">Thanks in advance,</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black;">Vincent
                    PARTENAY</span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">Energies Renouvelables - Département ESE</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; color: black;"></span></p>

              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; color: black;"> </span><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;"></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 161);">Centre Scientifique et Technique du Bâtiment</span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">290 Route des Lucioles BP 209 – F 06904 Sophia
                  Antipolis Cedex</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">Tél : +33-(0)4-93-95-67-21</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">Fax : +33-(0)4-93-95-64-31</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: rgb(0, 129, 0);">Évitez d’imprimer vos emails
                    inutilement. Respectez l’environnement</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; color: black;"></span></p>
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          From: "Matt Duffy" <<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
          To: "Partenay, Vincent" <<a href="mailto:vincent.partenay@cstb.fr" target="_blank">vincent.partenay@cstb.fr</a>>,
          <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
          Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:49:13 -0600 (CST)<br>
          Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 927 W/W heat pump<br>
          Dear Vincent,<br>
          <br>
          The detailed documentation for that component is not quite
          available; however, you may refer the the documentation for
          the previous version, Type668.<br>
          <br>
          The Type927 WWHP is a fairly straightforward component. It
          references your manufacturer's data in the performance map in
          the external file. Oppose to Type668, the data file is
          normalized, so you can scale the power and the capacity as
          parameters in Type927. If you have any other particular
          questions about this component, please feel free to contact
          me.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Best regards, <br>
          <br>
          Matt Duffy <br>
          <br>
          <div style="background-repeat: repeat-x;"><b>----- Original
              Message -----</b><br>
            <b>From:</b> "Partenay, Vincent" <<a href="mailto:vincent.partenay@cstb.fr" target="_blank">vincent.partenay@cstb.fr</a>>
            <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thu, March 10, 2011 7:01<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [TRNSYS-users] Type 927 W/W heat pump<br>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Dear all,</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US">I’m
                              working with the new type 927 and I would
                              like to get some information about how it
                              works</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US">Is there
                              an available  detailed documentation of
                              Type 927 ?</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="!">Thanks in
                              advance,</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black;">Vincent PARTENAY</span></b></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">Energies Renouvelables
                              - Département ESE</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> </span><
                            /p> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 161);">Centre Scientifique et
                                Technique du Bâtiment</span></b></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">290 Route des Lucioles
                              BP 209 – F 06904 Sophia Antipolis Cedex</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">Tél :
                              +33-(0)4-93-95-67-21</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">Fax :
                              +33-(0)4-93-95-64-31</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">
                            <b><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: rgb(0, 129, 0);">Évitez d’imprimer vos
                                emails inutilement. Respectez
                                l’environnement</span></b></p>
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          From: 王洋 <<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>><br>
          To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
          Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:46:00 +0100<br>
          Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS<br>
          Dear all,<br>
          <br>
             I have some questions about Wall heat transfer model in
          TRNSYS:<br>
          <br>
          1. I only find some equations about wall in Manual( such as
          Radaitive heat flows to the wall, external walls), but I only
          can understand a little. Please tell me some reference books
          about  Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS. Because I simulated
          an actual test room: the indoor and outdoor temperature keep
          the same 20°C and 10°C, respectively, during one day 24 hours.
          As this situation, QHEAT muss be equal to Q heat loss by walls
          based on energy balance. But the result of QHEAT in TRNSYS is
          6632 kJ, but based on heat transfer equations I got the heat
          loss energy is 24307 kJ. So I want to know the Wall heat
          transfer model in TRNSYS.<br>
          <br>
          2. To Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS: Whether it will
          consider Solar absorptance and Longwave Emission or not? But I
          didn't define these things. But from NTYPE 906 Energy Balance
          for surfaces: <br>
          1_B6_BAL  = -   1_B6_DQWALLdt-   1_B6_QCOMI+   1_B6_QCOMO+  
          1_B6_QRADGI+    1_B6_QRADGO-    1_B6_QALG  <br>
          5.839E-14     -2.217E+03     -1.093E-01     -2.217E+03     
          3.725E-03      0.000E+00      0.000E+00<br>
          <br>
          But We can see B6_QRADGI  still has value as 3.725E-03. I
          cann't understand. Please explain possible reasons for it.   
          <br>
          <br>
          B6_DQWALLdt in Manual is change of internal energy of surface,
          but it's a little abstract. Here I only used the heatings in
          TRNBUILD, no other internal gains. PLEASE give me some
          examples about change of internal energy of surface. Is it
          energy Generation of Wall etc.? Why here is minus
          (-2.217E+03)? What's difference between  B6_DQWALLdt and
          B6_QCOMO? Why here they are the same? Is there some reasons?<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          3. How to get or check the TRNSYS program's source code? And
          how to get the TRNSYS program's setup files and look over the
          "compiled" files(fortran) etc.? Because some simulation
          results I cann't understand such as the above Wall heat
          transfer model in TRNSYS etc. I want to understand their model
          and those simulation results and compare with the results by
          hand.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Many thanks!<br>
          <br>
          br.<br>
          <br>
          wang<br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/8 王洋 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/7 王洋 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                  <div><br>
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                      Dear all,<br>
                      <br>
                         I have some questions about Wall heat transfer
                      model in TRNSYS:<br>
                      <br>
                      1. I only find some equations about wall in
                      Manual( such as Radaitive heat flows to the wall,
                      external walls), but I only can understand a
                      little. Please tell me some reference books about 
                      Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS. Because I
                      simulated an actual test room: the indoor and
                      outdoor temperature keep the same 20°C and 10°C,
                      respectively, during one day 24 hours. As this
                      situation, QHEAT muss be equal to Q heat loss by
                      walls based on energy balance. But the result of
                      QHEAT in TRNSYS is 6632 kJ, but based on heat
                      transfer equations I got the heat loss energy is
                      24307 kJ. So I want to know the Wall heat transfer
                      model in TRNSYS.<br>
                      <br>
                      2. To Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS: Whether
                      it will consider Solar absorptance and Longwave
                      Emission or not? But I didn't define these things.
                      But from NTYPE 906 Energy Balance for surfaces: <br>
                      1_B6_BAL  = -   1_B6_DQWALLdt-   1_B6_QCOMI+  
                      1_B6_QCOMO+   1_B6_QRADGI+    1_B6_QRADGO-   
                      1_B6_QALG  <br>
                      5.839E-14     -2.217E+03     -1.093E-01    
                      -2.217E+03      3.725E-03      0.000E+00     
                      0.000E+00<br>
                      <br>
                      But We can see B6_QRADGI  still has value as
                      3.725E-03. I cann't understand. Please explain
                      possible reasons for it.    <br>
                      <br>
                      B6_DQWALLdt in Manual is change of internal energy
                      of surface, but it's a little abstract. Here I
                      only used the heatings in TRNBUILD, no other
                      internal gains. PLEASE give me some examples about
                      change of internal energy of surface. Is it energy
                      Generation of Wall etc.? Why here is minus
                      (-2.217E+03)? What's difference between 
                      B6_DQWALLdt and B6_QCOMO? Why here they are the
                      same? Is there some reasons?<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      3. How to get or check the TRNSYS program's source
                      code? And how to get the TRNSYS program's setup
                      files and look over the "compiled" files(fortran)
                      etc.? Because some simulation results I cann't
                      understand such as the above Wall heat transfer
                      model in TRNSYS etc. I want to understand their
                      model and those simulation results and compare
                      with the results by hand.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Many thanks!<br>
                      <br>
                      br.<br>
                      <br>
                      wang<br>
                      <br>
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                          Today's Topics:<br>
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                            1. Re: Questions...please reply (Matt Duffy)<br>
                            2. Re: Stratified storage Tank (Matt Duffy)<br>
                            3. Re: Strange error (Rambod Rayegan)<br>
                            4. Re: Strange error (Matt Duffy)<br>
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                          From: "Matt Duffy" <<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
                          To: <a href="mailto:juvenciotavares@hotmail.com" target="_blank">juvenciotavares@hotmail.com</a>,
                          <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu</a><br>
                          Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:34:17 -0600 (CST)<br>
                          Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Questions...please
                          reply<br>
                          <br>
                          Dear Juvencio,<br>
                          <br>
                          It appears that when you imported the file
                          into TRNBuild, the application did not find
                          the adjacent surface. This could be for a
                          couple of reasons: the adjacency needs to be
                          defined, or the surface in TRNSYS3D has a face
                          that is reversed. Please refer to the TRNSYS3D
                          tutorial PDF for more great information.<br>
                          <br>
                          Best regards,<br>
                          <br>
                          Matt Duffy<br>
                          <br>
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                              Original Message -----</b><br>
                            <b>From:</b> "Juvêncio Correia Tavares" <<a href="mailto:juvenciotavares@hotmail.com" target="_blank">juvenciotavares@hotmail.com</a>>
                            <br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Fri, March 4, 2011 10:50<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users]
                            Questions...please reply<br>
                            <br>
                            <div>
                              <div><span><span title="Clique para obter
                                    tradu??es alternativas">
                                    <div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">
                                      <span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span title="Clique para
                                          obter tradu??es alternativas"><br>
                                        </span></span></div>
                                    I`m</span> <span title="Clique para
                                    obter tradu??es alternativas">doing
                                    a</span> <span title="Clique para
                                    obter tradu??es alternativas">dynamic
                                    simulation</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">of buildings</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">in</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">TRNSYS</span><span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">, during</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">the</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">simulation</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">gave the following
                                    error</span> <span title="Clique
                                    para obter tradu??es alternativas">...</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">as you can see</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">in</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                    alternativas">the picture.</span></span>
                                <div>
                                  <font><span title="Clique para obter
                                      traduções alternativas">how</span> <span title="Clique para obter traduções
                                      alternativas">can I fix</span> <span title="Clique para obter traduções
                                      alternativas">this error</span><span title="Clique para obter traduções
                                      alter! nativas">?</span><br>
                                  </font>
                                  <div><span><
                                      span title="Clique para obter
                                      tradu??es alternativas"
                                      class="ecxhps">And</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">also</span><span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">,</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">I would like</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">to send me</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">a</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">PDF</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">about</span> <span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">connection</span><span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">.</span><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <span title="Clique para obter
                                      tradu??es alternativas">I await
                                      your</span> <span title="Clique
                                      para obter tradu??es alternativ!
                                      as">response</span><span title="Clique para obter tradu??es
                                      alternativas">.</span><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <span title="Clique para obter
                                      tradu??es alternativas">thanks.</span></div>
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                          From: "Matt Duffy" <<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
                          To: "Lei Wang" <<a href="mailto:leiwang@tees.tamus.edu" target="_blank">leiwang@tees.tamus.edu</a>>,
                          <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                          Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:41:06 -0600 (CST)<br>
                          Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Stratified storage
                          Tank<br>
                          <br>
                          Dear Lei Wang,<br>
                          <br>
                          I just tried this, and it simulated without
                          problems in version 17, but<br>
                          when I tried in version 16, I also received
                          the error. I can only<br>
                          speculate that this is due to the changes that
                          we implemented for<br>
                          TrnsysConstants - we increased the number of
                          parameters.<br>
                          Another option besides updating to version 17
                          is to use the Type534 TESS<br>
                          Tank model as well. Please let me know if you
                          have any more questions<br>
                          about this.<br>
                          <br>
                          Best regards,<br>
                          <br>
                          Matt Duffy<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          ----- Original Message -----<br>
                          From: "Lei Wang" <<a href="mailto:leiwang@tees.tamus.edu" target="_blank">leiwang@tees.tamus.edu</a>><br>
                          Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 16:17<br>
                          Subject:[TRNSYS-users] Stratified storage Tank<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          Hi, All<br>
                          <br>
                          I try to use the Type4a(stratified storage
                          tank) to modeling the ChW<br>
                          thermal storage<br>
                          tank, which volume was 1 million gal and
                          height was 100 feet.<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          The description of the type is as following<br>
                          "The thermal performance of a fluid-filled
                          sensible energy storage tank,<br>
                          subject to<br>
                          thermal stratification, can be modeled by
                          assuming that the tank consists<br>
                          of N (N <=<br>
                          100) fully-mixed equal volume segments"<br>
                          <br>
                          So I think the maximum nodes number can be
                          100.<br>
                          <br>
                          But when I input the number of nodes were 100,
                          the TrnExe shows that there<br>
                          was a<br>
                          range check error. When I check the list file,
                          there didn't show any error<br>
                          Information.<br>
                          <br>
                          When I input the number of nodes were 80, it
                          works fine.<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          Thanks<br>
                          <br>
                          Lei<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
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                          From: Rambod Rayegan <<a href="mailto:rraye001@fiu.edu" target="_blank">rraye001@fiu.edu</a>><br>
                          To: hotline <<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><br>
                          Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:49:42 -0500<br>
                          Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Strange error<br>
                          <div>Christian,<br>
                             <br>
                            Even when I change back the roof property to
                            the previous one, the error exists. It
                            seems, right now, it is independent of the
                            roof property. This is the reason that I
                            called it strange error.<br>
                          </div>
                          <div> </div>
                          <div>Rambod Rayegan<br>
                            Ph.D Candidate<br>
                            Mechanical Engineering Department<br>
                            Florida International University<br>
                            10555 W Flagler St, EC3620<br>
                            Miami, FL, 33174<br>
                             <br>
                            305-348-3558 (Office)<br>
                            786-218-7375(Cell)<br>
                            305-348-1932 (Fax)<br>
                          </div>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 7, 2011
                            at 7:33 AM, hotline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
                              <div>
                                <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi,</font></span>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> 
                                </div>
                                <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">seems like
                                      you hit a limit for the generation
                                      of the transfer function
                                      coefficients.</font></span> </div>
                                <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Please check
                                      if the roof is defined correctly.</font></span>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="ltr" align="left">  </div>
                                <div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span>Regards</span></span></span>
                                </div>
                                <div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Christian</span></span>
                                </div>
                                <div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"></span>  </span></div>
                                <div>
                                  <p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">TRANSSOLAR
                                      Software Team</span> </p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>
                                  </p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class="MsoNormal">  </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal" align="left"><a href="http://www.trnsys.de/" target="_blank">www.trnsys.de</a>
                                  </p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal" align="left"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Transsolar
                                      KlimaEngineering - Technologien
                                      für energieeffizientes Bauen und
                                      Nutzerkomfort in Gebäuden</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 7.5pt;">                                   
                                    </span></p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Transsolar
                                      Energietechnik GmbH, Curiestrasse
                                      2, 70563 Stuttgart / Amtsgericht
                                      Stuttgart - HRB 23347 / UsSt.-Id:
                                      DE152272639</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 7.5pt;"></span> </p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Geschäftsführer:
                                      Dipl.Ing. Matthias Schuler,
                                      Dipl.Ing. Thomas Auer, Dipl.Phys.
                                      Stefan Holst, Prof. Volkmar
                                      Bleicher</span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"></span>
                                  </p>
                                </div>
                                <div>  </div>
                                <br>
                                <div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="de">
                                  <hr>
                                     <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>Von:</b>
                                    Rambod Rayegan [mailto:<a href="mailto:rraye001@fiu.edu" target="_blank">rraye001@fiu.edu</a>]
                                    <br>
                                    <b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 5. März
                                    2011 06:08<br>
                                    <b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                    <b>Betreff:</b> [TRNSYS-users]
                                    Strange error<br>
                                  </font><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p>Dear TRNSYS users: </p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>  </div>
                                    <div>I am working on a model created
                                      buy TRNSYS 3d plugin in google
                                      sketchup for couple of months.
                                      Everyday I add  something to it or
                                      modify some parameters in it.
                                      Today, I have just changed the
                                      roof type in the building type 56
                                      and tried to run it again but I
                                      have received the following error:
                                    </div>
                                    <div>  </div>
                                    <div>  </div>
                                    <div><font color="#3333ff">Visual
                                        Fortran run-time error</font> </div>
                                    <div>  </div>
                                    <div><font color="#3333ff">fortrtl:severe(64):input
                                        conversion error, unit 56, file
                                        C:\.....building.trn </font> </div>
                                    <div><font color="#3333ff">Image PC
                                        Routine Source DFORRT.DLL 
                                        02014C49 Unknown  Unknown
                                        Unknown</font> </div>
                                    <div>  </div>
                                    <div>  </div>
                                    <div>Anybody has an idea to solve
                                      the issue? </div>
                                    <div>  </div>
                                    <div>Thank you. </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      Rambod Rayegan<br>
                                      Ph.D Candidate<br>
                                      Mechanical Engineering Department<br>
                                      Florida International University<br>
                                      10555 W Flagler St, EC3620<br>
                                      Miami, FL, 33174<br>
                                       <br>
                                      305-348-3558 (Office)<br>
                                      786-218-7375(Cell)<br>
                                      305-348-1932 (Fax)<br>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
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                          ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>
                          From: "Matt Duffy" <<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
                          To: "Rambod Rayegan" <<a href="mailto:rraye001@fiu.edu" target="_blank">rraye001@fiu.edu</a>>, <a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a><br>

                          Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:57:02 -0600 (CST)<br>
                          Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Strange error<br>
                          Dear Rambod,<br>
                          <br>
                          If you send me the IDF file, I might be able
                          to shed some light on the error.<br>
                          <br>
                          Best regards,<br>
                          <br>
                          Matt Duffy<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <div style="background-repeat: repeat-x;"><b>-----
                              Original Message -----</b><br>
                            <b>From:</b> "Rambod Rayegan" <<a href="mailto:rraye001@fiu.edu" target="_blank">rraye001@fiu.edu</a>> <br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Mon, March 7, 2011 9:49<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Strange
                            error<br>
                            <br>
                            <div>
                              <div>Christian,<br>
                                 <br>
                                Even when I change back the roof
                                property to the previous one, the error
                                exists. It seems, right now, it is
                                independent of the roof property. This
                                is the reason that I called it strange
                                error.</div>
                              <div> </div>
                              <div>Rambod Rayegan<br>
                                Ph.D Candidate<br>
                                Mechanical Engineering Department<br>
                                Florida International University<br>
                                10555 W Flagler St, EC3620<br>
                                Miami, FL, 33174<br>
                                 <br>
                                305-348-3558 (Office)<br>
                                786-218-7375(Cell)<br>
                                305-348-1932 (Fax)</div>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 7,
                                2011 at 7:33 AM, hotline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>></span>
                                wrote:<br>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
                                  <div>
                                    <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi,</font></span></div>
                                    <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">seems
                                          like you hit a limit for the
                                          generation of the transfer
                                          function coefficients.</font></span></div>
                                    <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Please
                                          check if the roof is defined
                                          correctly.</font></span></div>
                                    <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div>
                                    <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span>Regards</span></span></span></div>
                                    <div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Christian</span></span></div>
                                    <div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">  </span></div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">
                                        <span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">TRANSSOLAR
                                          Software Team</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><a href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"> </p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" align="left"><a href="http://www.trnsys.de/" target="_blank">www.trnsys.de</a></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" align="left"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Transsolar
                                          KlimaEngineering -
                                          Technologien für
                                          energieeffizientes Bauen und
                                          Nutzerkomfort in Gebäuden</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 7.5pt;">   &n!
                                          bsp;                               
                                        </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Transsolar
                                          Energietechnik GmbH,
                                          Curiestrasse 2, 70563
                                          Stuttgart / Amtsgericht
                                          Stuttgart - HRB 23347 /
                                          UsSt.-Id: DE152272639</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Geschäftsführer:
                                          Dipl.Ing. Matthias Schuler,
                                          Dipl.Ing. Thomas Auer,
                                          Dipl.Phys. Stefan Holst, Prof.
                                          Volkmar Bleicher</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" align="left"> </p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <br>
                                    <div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="de">
                                      <hr>    <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>Von:</b> Rambod
                                        Rayegan [mailto:<a href="mailto:rraye001@fiu.edu" target="_blank">rraye001@fiu.edu</a>]
                                        <br>
                                        <b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 5.
                                        M&auml! ;rz 2011 06:08<br>
                                        <b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
                                        <b>Betreff:</b> [TRNSYS-users]
                                        Strange error<br>
                                      </font></div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p>Dear TRNSYS users:</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>I am working on a model
                                          created buy TRNSYS 3d plugin
                                          in google sketchup for couple
                                          of months. Everyday I add 
                                          something to it or modify some
                                          parameters in it. Today, I
                                          have just changed the roof
                                          type in the building type 56
                                          and tried to run it again but
                                          I have received the following
                                          error:</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div><font color="#3333ff">Visual
                                            Fortran run-time error</font></div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div><font color="#3333ff">fortrtl:severe(64):input
                                            conversion error, unit 56,
                                            file C:\.....building.trn </font></div>
                                        <div><font color="#3333ff">Image PC
                                            Routine Source DFORRT.DLL 
                                            02014C49 Unknown  Unknown
                                            Unknown</font></div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>Anybody has an idea to
                                          solve the issu! e?</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>Thank you.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          Rambod Rayegan<br>
                                          Ph.D Candidate<br>
                                          Mechanical Engineering
                                          Department<br>
                                          Florida International
                                          University<br>
                                          10555 W Flagler St, EC3620<br>
                                          Miami, FL, 33174<br>
                                           <br>
                                          305-348-3558 (Office)<br>
                                          786-218-7375(Cell)<br>
                                          305-348-1932 (Fax)</div>
                                        <p> </p>
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