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Wang,<br>
QHEAT is the amount of sensible energy that has to be added to a
space to maintain it at its set point temperature. I am highly
skeptical that it is possible or even correct to try and "verify"
Type56 using steady state hand calculations. Type56 takes into
account hundreds of interdependent phenomena and holding something
like indoor/outdoor temperature difference constant is no guarantee
that all of them will be constant. A few comments about your test:
I assume you do not have any solar incident on your building as that
would have a significant impact on QHEAT. Second, Type56 dynamically
calculates (and can output) the convective heat transfer coefficient
on the inside and outside surface of each wall. Those coefficients
impact the overall u-value of the wall; make sure that you are using
the same u-value in your hand calc as Type56 is using. Third;
windows pose an even more complex problem as they are modeled as
having a frame u-value, and a center of glass u-value that I believe
is derated to account for edge effects. Make certain that the
u-value you are using in your hand calculations and the u-value that
Type56 is calculating are the same. Fourth, I assume that you have
no internal gains, infiltration, or ventilation in your building
either as these also would impact QHEAT. Fifth, if your building has
multiple zones, make certain that all of them are at the same
temperature. Sixth, if you are modeling a floor that is coupled to a
boundary temperature, there is probably energy transfer through that
surface. Seventh, the Type56 zones all have initial conditions; make
certain that your calculation is done long after the start of the
simulation to avoid any leftover transient effects.<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
On 3/10/2011 10:58, 王洋 wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTin1G4z-vuxd+=_AJPhUR-Pz7aU_Kw+MbF_U8C0b@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Dear all,<br>
<br>
I want to know what is the QHEAT caculation model in TRNSYS?
Because I assumed a situation: The indoor and outdoor temperature
keep the constant all the time, based on the Energy Balance the
QHEAT must be equal to the heat loss through the walls. But the
result of QHEAT in TRNSYS is 6600 kJ/day, but the heat loss by
Heat transfer equations is 24000 kJ/day. So I want to know what
is the QHEAT caculation model in TRNSYS? Why both of them are so
much defferent?<br>
<br>
Many thanks!<br>
<br>
br.<br>
<br>
wang<br>
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From: Serban Cristina <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:33:42 +0200<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] problem in trnbuild<br>
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Dear trnsys users,<br>
<br>
I am a new user of TRNSYS and I have encountered some
problems.<br>
<br>
I created a multizone building in simulation studio, and
when I edited the building in trnbuild I created a new wall
but I haven't defined layers in it.<br>
Now when I try to edit the building to define the wall the
error: no layers defined in mtype13 appears. I click ok and
trnbuild closes.<br>
How can I define my wall? is there a way? or do I have to
start over again?<br>
<br>
My building has 4 zones but they are displayed on 2 levels
(floors). Is there a way to automatically create the
building on 2 levels? <br>
In trnbuild each zone has 5 walls. If I add a new wall type
(e.g. ceiling) to each zone will the building be with two
levels? <br>
<br>
<br>
P.S. I tried using the trnsys3d plugin but it doesn't work.
It gives me too many errors. <br>
<br>
PhD. Cristina SERBAN<br>
Transilvania University of Brasov<br>
Department of Renewable Energy Systems and Recycling<br>
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From: Matt Duffy <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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To: Serban Cristina <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cristina.serban@unitbv.ro">cristina.serban@unitbv.ro</a>><br>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:25:48 -0600<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem in trnbuild<br>
Dear Cristina,<br>
<br>
Since you are a new user, I am going to suggest that you
instead use and learn the Trnsys3D plugin for Google SketchUp.
There is a great tutorial that will walk you through
everything, it is simple to apply multiple zones, add windows,
and shading. After you import this Trnsys3d (*.idf) file into
TrnBuild, you can indeed change the wall constructions. Please
give it a try and let me know if you have any questions.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Matt Duffy<br>
Thermal Energy Systems Specialists<br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from my mobile wireless device. Please excuse any typos.<br>
<br>
On Mar 10, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Serban Cristina <<a
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> Dear trnsys users,<br>
><br>
> I am a new user of TRNSYS and I have encountered some
problems.<br>
><br>
> I created a multizone building in simulation studio, and
when I edited the building in trnbuild I created a new wall
but I haven't defined layers in it.<br>
> Now when I try to edit the building to define the wall
the error: no layers defined in mtype13 appears. I click ok
and trnbuild closes.<br>
> How can I define my wall? is there a way? or do I have to
start over again?<br>
><br>
> My building has 4 zones but they are displayed on 2
levels (floors). Is there a way to automatically create the
building on 2 levels?<br>
> In trnbuild each zone has 5 walls. If I add a new wall
type (e.g. ceiling) to each zone will the building be with two
levels?<br>
><br>
><br>
> P.S. I tried using the trnsys3d plugin but it doesn't
work. It gives me too many errors.<br>
><br>
> PhD. Cristina SERBAN<br>
> Transilvania University of Brasov<br>
> Department of Renewable Energy Systems and Recycling<br>
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:01:25 +0000<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Type 927 W/W heat pump<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color:
black;">Dear all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color:
black;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color:
black;" lang="EN-US">I’m working with the new type 927
and I would like to get some information about how it
works</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color:
black;" lang="EN-US">Is there an available detailed
documentation of Type 927 ?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color:
black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color:
black;" lang="EN-US">Thanks in advance,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color:
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To: "Partenay, Vincent" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:49:13 -0600 (CST)<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 927 W/W heat pump<br>
Dear Vincent,<br>
<br>
The detailed documentation for that component is not quite
available; however, you may refer the the documentation for
the previous version, Type668.<br>
<br>
The Type927 WWHP is a fairly straightforward component. It
references your manufacturer's data in the performance map in
the external file. Oppose to Type668, the data file is
normalized, so you can scale the power and the capacity as
parameters in Type927. If you have any other particular
questions about this component, please feel free to contact
me.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards, <br>
<br>
Matt Duffy <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt; color: black;">Dear all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US">I’m
working with the new type 927 and I would
like to get some information about how it
works</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US">Is there
an available detailed documentation of
Type 927 ?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt; color: black;" lang="!">Thanks in
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10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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10pt; color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:
black;">Vincent PARTENAY</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
8pt; color: black;">Energies Renouvelables
- Département ESE</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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Technique du Bâtiment</span></b></p>
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8pt; color: black;">290 Route des Lucioles
BP 209 – F 06904 Sophia Antipolis Cedex</span></p>
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+33-(0)4-93-95-67-21</span></p>
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:46:00 +0100<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
I have some questions about Wall heat transfer model in
TRNSYS:<br>
<br>
1. I only find some equations about wall in Manual( such as
Radaitive heat flows to the wall, external walls), but I only
can understand a little. Please tell me some reference books
about Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS. Because I simulated
an actual test room: the indoor and outdoor temperature keep
the same 20°C and 10°C, respectively, during one day 24 hours.
As this situation, QHEAT muss be equal to Q heat loss by walls
based on energy balance. But the result of QHEAT in TRNSYS is
6632 kJ, but based on heat transfer equations I got the heat
loss energy is 24307 kJ. So I want to know the Wall heat
transfer model in TRNSYS.<br>
<br>
2. To Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS: Whether it will
consider Solar absorptance and Longwave Emission or not? But I
didn't define these things. But from NTYPE 906 Energy Balance
for surfaces: <br>
1_B6_BAL = - 1_B6_DQWALLdt- 1_B6_QCOMI+ 1_B6_QCOMO+
1_B6_QRADGI+ 1_B6_QRADGO- 1_B6_QALG <br>
5.839E-14 -2.217E+03 -1.093E-01 -2.217E+03
3.725E-03 0.000E+00 0.000E+00<br>
<br>
But We can see B6_QRADGI still has value as 3.725E-03. I
cann't understand. Please explain possible reasons for it.
<br>
<br>
B6_DQWALLdt in Manual is change of internal energy of surface,
but it's a little abstract. Here I only used the heatings in
TRNBUILD, no other internal gains. PLEASE give me some
examples about change of internal energy of surface. Is it
energy Generation of Wall etc.? Why here is minus
(-2.217E+03)? What's difference between B6_DQWALLdt and
B6_QCOMO? Why here they are the same? Is there some reasons?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
3. How to get or check the TRNSYS program's source code? And
how to get the TRNSYS program's setup files and look over the
"compiled" files(fortran) etc.? Because some simulation
results I cann't understand such as the above Wall heat
transfer model in TRNSYS etc. I want to understand their model
and those simulation results and compare with the results by
hand.<br>
<br>
<br>
Many thanks!<br>
<br>
br.<br>
<br>
wang<br>
<br>
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204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear all,<br>
<br>
I have some questions about Wall heat transfer
model in TRNSYS:<br>
<br>
1. I only find some equations about wall in
Manual( such as Radaitive heat flows to the wall,
external walls), but I only can understand a
little. Please tell me some reference books about
Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS. Because I
simulated an actual test room: the indoor and
outdoor temperature keep the same 20°C and 10°C,
respectively, during one day 24 hours. As this
situation, QHEAT muss be equal to Q heat loss by
walls based on energy balance. But the result of
QHEAT in TRNSYS is 6632 kJ, but based on heat
transfer equations I got the heat loss energy is
24307 kJ. So I want to know the Wall heat transfer
model in TRNSYS.<br>
<br>
2. To Wall heat transfer model in TRNSYS: Whether
it will consider Solar absorptance and Longwave
Emission or not? But I didn't define these things.
But from NTYPE 906 Energy Balance for surfaces: <br>
1_B6_BAL = - 1_B6_DQWALLdt- 1_B6_QCOMI+
1_B6_QCOMO+ 1_B6_QRADGI+ 1_B6_QRADGO-
1_B6_QALG <br>
5.839E-14 -2.217E+03 -1.093E-01
-2.217E+03 3.725E-03 0.000E+00
0.000E+00<br>
<br>
But We can see B6_QRADGI still has value as
3.725E-03. I cann't understand. Please explain
possible reasons for it. <br>
<br>
B6_DQWALLdt in Manual is change of internal energy
of surface, but it's a little abstract. Here I
only used the heatings in TRNBUILD, no other
internal gains. PLEASE give me some examples about
change of internal energy of surface. Is it energy
Generation of Wall etc.? Why here is minus
(-2.217E+03)? What's difference between
B6_DQWALLdt and B6_QCOMO? Why here they are the
same? Is there some reasons?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
3. How to get or check the TRNSYS program's source
code? And how to get the TRNSYS program's setup
files and look over the "compiled" files(fortran)
etc.? Because some simulation results I cann't
understand such as the above Wall heat transfer
model in TRNSYS etc. I want to understand their
model and those simulation results and compare
with the results by hand.<br>
<br>
<br>
Many thanks!<br>
<br>
br.<br>
<br>
wang<br>
<br>
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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:34:17 -0600 (CST)<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Questions...please
reply<br>
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Dear Juvencio,<br>
<br>
It appears that when you imported the file
into TRNBuild, the application did not find
the adjacent surface. This could be for a
couple of reasons: the adjacency needs to be
defined, or the surface in TRNSYS3D has a face
that is reversed. Please refer to the TRNSYS3D
tutorial PDF for more great information.<br>
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I`m</span> <span title="Clique para
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simulation</span> <span
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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:41:06 -0600 (CST)<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Stratified storage
Tank<br>
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Dear Lei Wang,<br>
<br>
I just tried this, and it simulated without
problems in version 17, but<br>
when I tried in version 16, I also received
the error. I can only<br>
speculate that this is due to the changes that
we implemented for<br>
TrnsysConstants - we increased the number of
parameters.<br>
Another option besides updating to version 17
is to use the Type534 TESS<br>
Tank model as well. Please let me know if you
have any more questions<br>
about this.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
<br>
Matt Duffy<br>
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Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 16:17<br>
Subject:[TRNSYS-users] Stratified storage Tank<br>
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Hi, All<br>
<br>
I try to use the Type4a(stratified storage
tank) to modeling the ChW<br>
thermal storage<br>
tank, which volume was 1 million gal and
height was 100 feet.<br>
<br>
<br>
The description of the type is as following<br>
"The thermal performance of a fluid-filled
sensible energy storage tank,<br>
subject to<br>
thermal stratification, can be modeled by
assuming that the tank consists<br>
of N (N <=<br>
100) fully-mixed equal volume segments"<br>
<br>
So I think the maximum nodes number can be
100.<br>
<br>
But when I input the number of nodes were 100,
the TrnExe shows that there<br>
was a<br>
range check error. When I check the list file,
there didn't show any error<br>
Information.<br>
<br>
When I input the number of nodes were 80, it
works fine.<br>
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<br>
Thanks<br>
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Lei<br>
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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:49:42 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Strange error<br>
<div>Christian,<br>
<br>
Even when I change back the roof property to
the previous one, the error exists. It
seems, right now, it is independent of the
roof property. This is the reason that I
called it strange error.<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Rambod Rayegan<br>
Ph.D Candidate<br>
Mechanical Engineering Department<br>
Florida International University<br>
10555 W Flagler St, EC3620<br>
Miami, FL, 33174<br>
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at 7:33 AM, hotline <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com"
target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font
face="Arial" size="2">Hi,</font></span>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font
face="Arial" size="2">seems like
you hit a limit for the generation
of the transfer function
coefficients.</font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font
face="Arial" size="2">Please check
if the roof is defined correctly.</font></span>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial;
font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial;
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Rambod Rayegan [mailto:<a
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target="_blank">rraye001@fiu.edu</a>]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 5. März
2011 06:08<br>
<b>An:</b> <a
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target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [TRNSYS-users]
Strange error<br>
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<div>
<p>Dear TRNSYS users: </p>
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<div>I am working on a model created
buy TRNSYS 3d plugin in google
sketchup for couple of months.
Everyday I add something to it or
modify some parameters in it.
Today, I have just changed the
roof type in the building type 56
and tried to run it again but I
have received the following error:
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#3333ff">Visual
Fortran run-time error</font> </div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#3333ff">fortrtl:severe(64):input
conversion error, unit 56, file
C:\.....building.trn </font> </div>
<div><font color="#3333ff">Image PC
Routine Source DFORRT.DLL
02014C49 Unknown Unknown
Unknown</font> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Anybody has an idea to solve
the issue? </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thank you. </div>
<div><br>
Rambod Rayegan<br>
Ph.D Candidate<br>
Mechanical Engineering Department<br>
Florida International University<br>
10555 W Flagler St, EC3620<br>
Miami, FL, 33174<br>
<br>
305-348-3558 (Office)<br>
786-218-7375(Cell)<br>
305-348-1932 (Fax)<br>
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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:57:02 -0600 (CST)<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Strange error<br>
Dear Rambod,<br>
<br>
If you send me the IDF file, I might be able
to shed some light on the error.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Matt Duffy<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Mon, March 7, 2011 9:49<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Strange
error<br>
<br>
<div>
<div>Christian,<br>
<br>
Even when I change back the roof
property to the previous one, the error
exists. It seems, right now, it is
independent of the roof property. This
is the reason that I called it strange
error.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Rambod Rayegan<br>
Ph.D Candidate<br>
Mechanical Engineering Department<br>
Florida International University<br>
10555 W Flagler St, EC3620<br>
Miami, FL, 33174<br>
<br>
305-348-3558 (Office)<br>
786-218-7375(Cell)<br>
305-348-1932 (Fax)</div>
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2011 at 7:33 AM, hotline <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com"
target="_blank">hotline@transsolar.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font
face="Arial" size="2">Hi,</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font
face="Arial" size="2">seems
like you hit a limit for the
generation of the transfer
function coefficients.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font
face="Arial" size="2">Please
check if the roof is defined
correctly.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial;
font-size: 10pt;"><span>Regards</span></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:
Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial;
font-size: 10pt;">Christian</span></span></div>
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style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial;
font-size: 10pt;">Geschäftsführer:
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<hr> <font face="Tahoma"
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Rayegan [mailto:<a
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href="mailto:rraye001@fiu.edu"
target="_blank">rraye001@fiu.edu</a>]
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Mä! ;rz 2011 06:08<br>
<b>An:</b> <a
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<div> </div>
<div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<p>Dear TRNSYS users:</p>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am working on a model
created buy TRNSYS 3d plugin
in google sketchup for couple
of months. Everyday I add
something to it or modify some
parameters in it. Today, I
have just changed the roof
type in the building type 56
and tried to run it again but
I have received the following
error:</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#3333ff">Visual
Fortran run-time error</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#3333ff">fortrtl:severe(64):input
conversion error, unit 56,
file C:\.....building.trn </font></div>
<div><font color="#3333ff">Image PC
Routine Source DFORRT.DLL
02014C49 Unknown Unknown
Unknown</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Anybody has an idea to
solve the issu! e?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thank you.</div>
<div><br>
Rambod Rayegan<br>
Ph.D Candidate<br>
Mechanical Engineering
Department<br>
Florida International
University<br>
10555 W Flagler St, EC3620<br>
Miami, FL, 33174<br>
<br>
305-348-3558 (Office)<br>
786-218-7375(Cell)<br>
305-348-1932 (Fax)</div>
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P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
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