<div> Dear all,<br><br> I have a question about room air temperature: NTYPE 1: TAIR.
As we know, there are different room air temperature in different height
of one room. Besides that, the wall, the floor and roof temperature of
the room are also not the same. Please tell me what's meaning of NTYPE
1: TAIR? Where is This AIRNODE? How to define This AIRNODE?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> PLUS: to Operative(operation) temperature of room: How to define it? What' meaning is Operative(operation)temperature of room? What's difference of Operative(operation) temperature of room and NTYPE 1: TAIR?</div>
<br> <br><br> I saw the TRNBuild / Type56 documentation . But it only shows NTYPE 1:
TAIR: air temperature of zone. But I want to know Where is This
AIRNODE which measures aie temperature of zone? How to define This
AIRNODE? Because as we know, there are different room air temperature in
different height of one room.<br>
<br> <br> to Top it shows the operative(operation)
temperature of room: BUT how to define it? What' meaning is
Operative(operation)<div class="im">temperature of room? What's difference of Operative(operation) temperature of room and NTYPE 1: TAIR?<br>
<br> Many thanks！<br> <br> Br.<br> <br>wang</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/17 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br>
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:21:46 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Create a final report with TrnEdit<br>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
Manu,<br>
TRNEdit is a tool that allows you to directly edit the text of the
TRNSYS input file. Before the Studio existed, people used TRNEdit to
create their input file. It doesn't really have any reporting
features. You might try selecting "Report" from the File menu in the
TRNSYS Studio. This will generate a summary text file of your
project.<br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
<br>
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On 12/14/2010 07:29, Manu wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br>
<br>
I try to use TrnEdit on a project and I want to know if it's
possible to generate a final report (Word or pdf extension file)
withe graphic and text comment, juste like SimSol (french
application based on TRNSys to dimention a solar system).<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:21:12 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] zone air temperature (NTYPE 1: TAIR)<br>
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Wang,<br>
Information of this kind can be found in the TRNBuild / Type56
documentation (volume 05 in the Trnsys17 documentation set).<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
David<br>
<br>
On 12/17/2010 07:22, 王洋 wrote:
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<div><br>
Dear all,</div>
<div> </div>
<div> I have a question about room air temperature: NTYPE 1:
TAIR. As we know, there are different room air temperature in
different height of one room. Besides that, the wall, the floor
and roof temperature of the room are also not the same. Please
tell me what's meaning of NTYPE 1: TAIR? Where is This AIRNODE?
How to define This AIRNODE?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> PLUS: to Operative(operation) temperature of room: How to
define it? What' meaning is Operative(operation)temperature of
room? What's difference of Operative(operation) temperature of
room and NTYPE 1: TAIR?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Many thanks!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Br.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>wang</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
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4. error when opening sketchup (Annie Marston)<br>
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To: Abduljalil Ali Al-Abidi <<a href="mailto:abo_anas4@yahoo.com" target="_blank">abo_anas4@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:47:43 -0600<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Abduljalil,<br>
In order to change the wall layers, open TRNBuild and open
your building description file (*.bui or *.b17). Select
Typemanager: Walls from the menus at the top of the screen.
Select the appropriate wall from the drop-down list. Double
click on a layer in order to change its thickness.<br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
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<div>Dear Trnsys user <br>
I am a new trnsys user and I want to change the
thickness of the wall insulation in the tape 56 (
multi-zone building ). Is it possible to change this
thickness in this type ex. for insulation = 5 cm to 20
cm step 5cm.<br>
I would like to study the effect of insulation thick
to the performance of the system<br>
best regards<br>
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To: "Jérôme Deroche" <<a href="mailto:deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com" target="_blank">deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com</a>><br>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:50:55 -0600<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Psychrometrics<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Jérôme,<br>
What is most likely happening is that at a pressure of
1atm, your combination of the dry bulb temperature and the
absolute humidity ratio are on the wrong side of the
saturation line. Since that is physically impossible, the
psychometric routine keeps your dry bulb temperature and
resets the absolute humidity ratio to the value it would be
if the relative humidity were 100%.<br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/16/2010 04:21, wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><font size="3"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Hello,<br>
i'm using a psychrometrics type with dry bulb
temperature and absolute humidity ratio in inputs.
Pressure input is set to 1 atm.<br>
<br>
I have noticed that sometimes there is a
difference between the input humidity ratio and
the output humidity ratio. The difference ratio is
about 1 to 12%.<br>
<br>
Could someone explain to me why this difference
happens?<br>
<br>
Thank you <br>
</span></span></font></font>
<div style="background-color: white;"><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"></span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="2"><br>
Jérôme DEROCHE<br>
Ingénieur d'études<br>
<br>
</font></span></span></font></span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="5">CEDRE</font></span></span></font></span><br>
<br>
<span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="2">Tel: 04 92
96 03 77<br>
Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>
Ophira 1, 1 place Bermond<br>
06560 SOPHIA-ANTIPOLIS<br>
</font></span></span></font></span><br>
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Madison, WI 53703 USA
P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>
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To: David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 05:08:17 -0500 (EST)<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Re : Re: Psychrometrics<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff"><font size="2"><font color="#000000" face="Arial" size="3">Your answers are right.<br>
Thank you very much<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></font>
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<div style="background-color: white;"><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"></span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="2"><br>
Jérôme DEROCHE<br>
Ingénieur d'études<br>
<br>
</font></span></span></font></span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="5">CEDRE</font></span></span></font></span><br>
<br>
<span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="2">Tel: 04 92
96 03 77<br>
Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>
Ophira 1, 1 place Bermond<br>
06560 SOPHIA-ANTIPOLIS<br>
</font></span></span></font></span><br>
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<h1 style="padding-bottom: 3px; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); font-family: arial,helvetica; margin-bottom: 1px; color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold; padding-top: 3px;">Message original Re : Re:
[TRNSYS-users] Psychrometrics</h1>
<font style="background-color: white; font-family: arial,helvetica; color: black; font-size: 10pt;"><b>De : </b>David
BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
<b>A : </b>Jérôme Deroche <<a href="mailto:deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com" target="_blank">deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com</a>><br>
<b>Date</b> : 2010-12-16 19:51:05</font><br>
<br>
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Jérôme,<br>
What is most likely happening is that at a pressure of
1atm, your combination of the dry bulb temperature and the
absolute humidity ratio are on the wrong side of the
saturation line. Since that is physically impossible, the
psychometric routine keeps your dry bulb temperature and
resets the absolute humidity ratio to the value it would be
if the relative humidity were 100%.<br>
Best,<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/16/2010 04:21, wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><font size="3"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Hello,<br>
i'm using a psychrometrics type with dry bulb
temperature and absolute humidity ratio in inputs.
Pressure input is set to 1 atm.<br>
<br>
I have noticed that sometimes there is a
difference between the input humidity ratio and
the output humidity ratio. The difference ratio is
about 1 to 12%.<br>
<br>
Could someone explain to me why this difference
happens?<br>
<br>
Thank you <br>
</span></span></font></font>
<div style="background-color: white;"><span style="line-height: 150%; font-size: 11pt;"></span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="2"><br>
Jérôme DEROCHE<br>
Ingénieur d'études<br>
<br>
</font></span></span></font></span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="5">CEDRE</font></span></span></font></span><br>
<br>
<span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65, 105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="2">Tel: 04 92
96 03 77<br>
Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>
Ophira 1, 1 place Bermond<br>
06560 SOPHIA-ANTIPOLIS<br>
</font></span></span></font></span><br>
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:30:35 +0000<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] error when opening sketchup<br>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am using the TRNSYS 3d plugin for
SketchUp V7. I have v8 but the plugin doesn’t seem to
attach to v8 (is this correct? Is there a plugin for
v8). Whenever I open sketch up I get the following
error:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry… the plugin has encountered an
error. This error may cause unpredictable behavior in
the plugin continue this session with caution! It would
probably be a good idea to exit SketchUp and start
again. (unfortunately this happens everytime I open
sketchup)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For help please contact…</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Error:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">NameError</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wrong constant name jectinfoInterface</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Backtrace:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google
SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
`const_get'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google
SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
`restore_state'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google
SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
`initialize'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google
SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:13:in
`call'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My version of the plugin is 1.0.5.362</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Can you help</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Annie</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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