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    Wang,<br>
      Information of this kind can be found in the TRNBuild / Type56
    documentation (volume 05 in the Trnsys17 documentation set).<br>
    Kind Regards,<br>
     David<br>
    <br>
    On 12/17/2010 07:22, 王洋 wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:AANLkTikGZ57H4weJic6qJmohz1yvfLOb0dT6qGrMwSDM@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div><br>
        Dear all,</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>     I have a question about room air temperature: NTYPE 1:
        TAIR. As we know, there are different room air temperature in
        different height of one room. Besides that,  the wall, the floor
        and roof temperature of the room are also not the same. Please
        tell me  what's meaning of NTYPE 1: TAIR? Where is This AIRNODE?
        How to define This AIRNODE?</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div> PLUS: to Operative(operation) temperature of room:  How to
        define it?  What' meaning is  Operative(operation)temperature of
        room? What's difference of Operative(operation) temperature of
        room and  NTYPE 1: TAIR?</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>Many thanks!</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>Br.</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>wang</div>
      <div> </div>
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      <div> </div>
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            1. Re: Type 56 (David BRADLEY)<br>
            2. Re: Psychrometrics (David BRADLEY)<br>
            3. Re : Re:  Psychrometrics (Jérôme Deroche)<br>
            4. error when opening sketchup (Annie Marston)<br>
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          From: David BRADLEY <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          To: Abduljalil Ali Al-Abidi <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:47:43 -0600<br>
          Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56<br>
          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Abduljalil,<br>
              In order to change the wall layers, open TRNBuild and open
            your building description file (*.bui or *.b17). Select
            Typemanager: Walls from the menus at the top of the screen.
            Select the appropriate wall from the drop-down list. Double
            click on a layer in order to change its thickness.<br>
            Best,<br>
             David<br>
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            On 12/16/2010 03:26, Abduljalil Ali Al-Abidi wrote:
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                <div>Dear Trnsys user <br>
                  I am a new trnsys user and I want to change the
                  thickness of the wall insulation in the tape 56 (
                  multi-zone building ). Is it possible to change this
                  thickness in this type ex. for insulation = 5 cm to 20
                  cm step 5cm.<br>
                  I would like to study the effect of insulation thick
                  to the performance of the system<br>
                  best regards<br>
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Madison, WI  53703 USA

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          To: "Jérôme Deroche" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:50:55 -0600<br>
          Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Psychrometrics<br>
          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Jérôme,<br>
              What is most likely happening is that at a pressure of
            1atm, your combination of the dry bulb temperature and the
            absolute humidity ratio are on the wrong side of the
            saturation line. Since that is physically impossible, the
            psychometric routine  keeps your dry bulb temperature and
            resets the absolute humidity ratio to the value it would be
            if the relative humidity were 100%.<br>
            Best,<br>
             David<br>
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            <br>
            On 12/16/2010 04:21,  wrote:
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                      style="font-family: Arial;">Hello,<br>
                      i'm using a psychrometrics type with dry bulb
                      temperature and absolute humidity ratio in inputs.
                      Pressure input is set to 1 atm.<br>
                      <br>
                      I have noticed that sometimes there is a
                      difference between the input humidity ratio and
                      the output humidity ratio. The difference ratio is
                      about 1 to 12%.<br>
                      <br>
                      Could someone explain to me why this difference
                      happens?<br>
                      <br>
                      Thank you <br>
                    </span></span></font></font>
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                          Jérôme DEROCHE<br>
                          Ingénieur d'études<br>
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                <span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New
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                          Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>
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22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI  53703 USA

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F:+1.608.278.1475
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          From: "Jérôme Deroche" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          To: David BRADLEY <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
          Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 05:08:17 -0500 (EST)<br>
          Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Re : Re: Psychrometrics<br>
          <div bgcolor="#ffffff"><font size="2"><font color="#000000"
                face="Arial" size="3">Your answers are right.<br>
                Thank you very much<br>
                <br>
                <br>
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                          Jérôme DEROCHE<br>
                          Ingénieur d'études<br>
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                      Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color:
                        rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="2">Tel: 04 92
                          96 03 77<br>
                          Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>
                          Ophira 1, 1 place Bermond<br>
                          06560 SOPHIA-ANTIPOLIS<br>
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              <font style="background-color: white; font-family:
                arial,helvetica; color: black; font-size: 10pt;"><b>De : </b>David
                BRADLEY <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
                <b>A : </b>Jérôme Deroche <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com"
                  target="_blank">deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com</a>><br>
                <b>Date</b> : 2010-12-16 19:51:05</font><br>
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            Jérôme,<br>
              What is most likely happening is that at a pressure of
            1atm, your combination of the dry bulb temperature and the
            absolute humidity ratio are on the wrong side of the
            saturation line. Since that is physically impossible, the
            psychometric routine  keeps your dry bulb temperature and
            resets the absolute humidity ratio to the value it would be
            if the relative humidity were 100%.<br>
            Best,<br>
             David<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 12/16/2010 04:21,  wrote:
            <blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><font size="3"><span
                    style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span
                      style="font-family: Arial;">Hello,<br>
                      i'm using a psychrometrics type with dry bulb
                      temperature and absolute humidity ratio in inputs.
                      Pressure input is set to 1 atm.<br>
                      <br>
                      I have noticed that sometimes there is a
                      difference between the input humidity ratio and
                      the output humidity ratio. The difference ratio is
                      about 1 to 12%.<br>
                      <br>
                      Could someone explain to me why this difference
                      happens?<br>
                      <br>
                      Thank you <br>
                    </span></span></font></font>
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                          Jérôme DEROCHE<br>
                          Ingénieur d'études<br>
                          <br>
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                  Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65,
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                      Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color:
                        rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="5">CEDRE</font></span></span></font></span><br>
                <br>
                <span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 'Times New
                  Roman'; font-size: 11pt;"><font style="color: rgb(65,
                    105, 225);" size="4"><span style="font-family:
                      Arial; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color:
                        rgb(100, 149, 237);"><font size="2">Tel: 04 92
                          96 03 77<br>
                          Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>
                          Ophira 1, 1 place Bermond<br>
                          06560 SOPHIA-ANTIPOLIS<br>
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Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI  53703 USA

P:+1.608.274.2577
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          To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:30:35 +0000<br>
          Subject: [TRNSYS-users] error when opening sketchup<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">I am using the TRNSYS 3d plugin for
                SketchUp V7. I have v8 but the plugin doesn’t seem to
                attach to v8 (is this correct? Is there a plugin for
                v8). Whenever I open sketch up I get the following
                error:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Sorry… the plugin has encountered an
                error. This error may cause unpredictable behavior in
                the plugin continue this session with caution! It would
                probably be a good idea to exit SketchUp  and start
                again. (unfortunately this happens everytime I open
                sketchup)</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">For help please contact…</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Error:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">NameError</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Wrong constant name jectinfoInterface</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Backtrace:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google
                SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
                `const_get'</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google
                SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
                `restore_state'</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google
                SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in
                `initialize'</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google
                SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:13:in
                `call'</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">My version of the plugin is 1.0.5.362</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Can you help</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Annie</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p style="margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0in;
                margin-right: 0in;" class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="color: navy;">Dr. A. Marston, Ph.D. LEED® AP</span></b></p>
              <p style="margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0in;
                margin-right: 0in;" class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Building
                    Performance Analyst</span></b></p>
              <p style="margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0in;
                margin-right: 0in;" class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: navy;
                    font-size: 10pt;">Ebert & Baumann Consulting
                    Engineers, Inc.</span></b><span style="color: navy;
                  font-size: 12pt;"></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="letter-spacing:
                    2.6pt; color: rgb(153, 153, 153); font-size: 10pt;">An 
                    Enterprise  of  the  Ebert-Consulting Group</span></b><b><span
                    style="letter-spacing: 2.6pt; color: rgb(153, 153,
                    153); font-size: 10pt;"></span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: navy; font-size:
                  5pt;"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">734 15<sup>th</sup>
                  Street, NW </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Suite
                  1000</span></p>
              <p style="margin-bottom: 6pt;" class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size: 10pt;">Washington, D.C. 20005, USA</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: navy;
                    font-size: 10pt;">Tel          +1.202.608.1334</span></b><b><span
                    style="color: navy;"></span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: navy;
                    font-size: 10pt;">Fax         +1.202.544.1434</span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: navy;
                    font-size: 10pt;"> </span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: navy;
                    font-size: 10pt;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      title="blocked::mailto:o.baumann@eb-engineers.com"
                      href="mailto:a.marston@eb-engineers.com"
                      target="_blank"><span style="color: navy;
                        text-decoration: none;">a.marston@eb-engineers.com</span></a></span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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Principal
Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI  53703 USA

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