<div><br>Dear all,</div>
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<div> I have a question about room air temperature: NTYPE 1: TAIR. As we know, there are different room air temperature in different height of one room. Besides that, the wall, the floor and roof temperature of the room are also not the same. Please tell me what's meaning of NTYPE 1: TAIR? Where is This AIRNODE? How to define This AIRNODE?</div>
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<div> PLUS: to Operative(operation) temperature of room: How to define it? What' meaning is Operative(operation)temperature of room? What's difference of Operative(operation) temperature of room and NTYPE 1: TAIR?</div>
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<div>Many thanks!</div>
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<div>Br.</div>
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<div>wang</div>
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<br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Type 56 (David BRADLEY)<br> 2. Re: Psychrometrics (David BRADLEY)<br> 3. Re : Re: Psychrometrics (Jérôme Deroche)<br> 4. error when opening sketchup (Annie Marston)<br><br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>
From: David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br>To: Abduljalil Ali Al-Abidi <<a href="mailto:abo_anas4@yahoo.com">abo_anas4@yahoo.com</a>><br>Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:47:43 -0600<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Abduljalil,<br> In order to change the wall layers, open TRNBuild and open your building description file (*.bui or *.b17). Select Typemanager: Walls from the menus at the top of the screen. Select the appropriate wall from the drop-down list. Double click on a layer in order to change its thickness.<br>
Best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 12/16/2010 03:26, Abduljalil Ali Al-Abidi wrote:
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<div>Dear Trnsys user <br>I am a new trnsys user and I want to change the thickness of the wall insulation in the tape 56 ( multi-zone building ). Is it possible to change this thickness in this type ex. for insulation = 5 cm to 20 cm step 5cm.<br>
I would like to study the effect of insulation thick to the performance of the system<br>best regards<br></div></div><br><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
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To: "Jérôme Deroche" <<a href="mailto:deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com">deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com</a>><br>Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:50:55 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Psychrometrics<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Jérôme,<br> What is most likely happening is that at a pressure of 1atm, your combination of the dry bulb temperature and the absolute humidity ratio are on the wrong side of the saturation line. Since that is physically impossible, the psychometric routine keeps your dry bulb temperature and resets the absolute humidity ratio to the value it would be if the relative humidity were 100%.<br>
Best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 12/16/2010 04:21, wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><font size="3"><span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello,<br>i'm using a psychrometrics type with dry bulb temperature and absolute humidity ratio in inputs. Pressure input is set to 1 atm.<br>
<br>I have noticed that sometimes there is a difference between the input humidity ratio and the output humidity ratio. The difference ratio is about 1 to 12%.<br><br>Could someone explain to me why this difference happens?<br>
<br>Thank you <br></span></span></font></font>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white"><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><font style="COLOR: rgb(65,105,225)" size="4"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="COLOR: rgb(100,149,237)"><font size="2"><br>
Jérôme DEROCHE<br>Ingénieur d'études<br><br></font></span></span></font></span><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><font style="COLOR: rgb(65,105,225)" size="4"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="COLOR: rgb(100,149,237)"><font size="5">CEDRE</font></span></span></font></span><br>
<br><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><font style="COLOR: rgb(65,105,225)" size="4"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="COLOR: rgb(100,149,237)"><font size="2">Tel: 04 92 96 03 77<br>
Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>Ophira 1, 1 place Bermond<br>06560 SOPHIA-ANTIPOLIS<br></font></span></span></font></span><br></div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
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Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
22 North Carroll Street - suite 370
Madison, WI 53703 USA
P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>
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<a href="http://www.trnsys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.trnsys.com</a></pre></div><br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>From: "Jérôme Deroche" <<a href="mailto:deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com">deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com</a>><br>
To: David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 05:08:17 -0500 (EST)<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Re : Re: Psychrometrics<br>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff"><font size="2"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Arial">Your answers are right.<br>Thank you very much<br><br><br></font></font>
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Jérôme DEROCHE<br>Ingénieur d'études<br><br></font></span></span></font></span><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><font style="COLOR: rgb(65,105,225)" size="4"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="COLOR: rgb(100,149,237)"><font size="5">CEDRE</font></span></span></font></span><br>
<br><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><font style="COLOR: rgb(65,105,225)" size="4"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="COLOR: rgb(100,149,237)"><font size="2">Tel: 04 92 96 03 77<br>
Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>Ophira 1, 1 place Bermond<br>06560 SOPHIA-ANTIPOLIS<br></font></span></span></font></span><br></div><br>
<h1 style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 3px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(238,238,238); FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 1px; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; PADDING-TOP: 3px">Message original Re : Re: [TRNSYS-users] Psychrometrics</h1>
<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><b>De : </b>David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br><b>A : </b>Jérôme Deroche <<a href="mailto:deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com" target="_blank">deroche.jerome@cedre-sophia.com</a>><br>
<b>Date</b> : 2010-12-16 19:51:05</font><br><br></div>Jérôme,<br> What is most likely happening is that at a pressure of 1atm, your combination of the dry bulb temperature and the absolute humidity ratio are on the wrong side of the saturation line. Since that is physically impossible, the psychometric routine keeps your dry bulb temperature and resets the absolute humidity ratio to the value it would be if the relative humidity were 100%.<br>
Best,<br> David<br><br><br>On 12/16/2010 04:21, wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><font size="3"><span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello,<br>i'm using a psychrometrics type with dry bulb temperature and absolute humidity ratio in inputs. Pressure input is set to 1 atm.<br>
<br>I have noticed that sometimes there is a difference between the input humidity ratio and the output humidity ratio. The difference ratio is about 1 to 12%.<br><br>Could someone explain to me why this difference happens?<br>
<br>Thank you <br></span></span></font></font>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white"><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><font style="COLOR: rgb(65,105,225)" size="4"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="COLOR: rgb(100,149,237)"><font size="2"><br>
Jérôme DEROCHE<br>Ingénieur d'études<br><br></font></span></span></font></span><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><font style="COLOR: rgb(65,105,225)" size="4"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="COLOR: rgb(100,149,237)"><font size="5">CEDRE</font></span></span></font></span><br>
<br><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><font style="COLOR: rgb(65,105,225)" size="4"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style="COLOR: rgb(100,149,237)"><font size="2">Tel: 04 92 96 03 77<br>
Port: 06 25 11 21 93<br>Ophira 1, 1 place Bermond<br>06560 SOPHIA-ANTIPOLIS<br></font></span></span></font></span><br></div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
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P:+1.608.274.2577
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To: "<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:30:35 +0000<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] error when opening sketchup<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am using the TRNSYS 3d plugin for SketchUp V7. I have v8 but the plugin doesn’t seem to attach to v8 (is this correct? Is there a plugin for v8). Whenever I open sketch up I get the following error:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry… the plugin has encountered an error. This error may cause unpredictable behavior in the plugin continue this session with caution! It would probably be a good idea to exit SketchUp and start again. (unfortunately this happens everytime I open sketchup)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For help please contact…</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Error:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">NameError</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wrong constant name jectinfoInterface</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Backtrace:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `const_get'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `restore_state'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/DialogManager.rb:31:in `initialize'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:13:in `call'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My version of the plugin is 1.0.5.362</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Can you help</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Annie</p>
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