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    Heloise,<br>
      If you are using the automatic heating and cooling types that are
    built into Type56/TRNBuild then these only pay attention to the zone
    air temperature in order to compute the sensible load on the space.
    The control of those components is assumed to be instantaneous and
    ideal. If you are simulating a building and an actual HVAC system
    then you can set up the HVAC system to pay attention to whatever
    Type56 output variables that you want (including operative
    temperature). PID control is possible using Type22 but in my
    experience a lot of portions of the HVAC system are based on ON/OFF
    control (Type108). When implementing controls of any kind you need
    to make sure that your timesteps are small (1 to 5 minutes); recall
    that TRNSYS can make one control decision per timestep and then it
    must stick with that decision until the next timestep.<br>
    Regards,<br>
     David<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 11/8/2010 10:25, Heloise PELEN wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
            "Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">Dear
TRNSYS
            users,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            "Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
            "Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">The
            Type 56 uses a control on the air temperature « TAIR » to
            compute the
            sensible heat demand of each thermal zones.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
            "Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">This
temperature
            does not include the surface temperature and doesn’t fully
            describe
            the temperature actually felt by the human, body.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
            "Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">Is
            there a way to control the operative temperature, rather
            than on the air temperature,
            in type 56 ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
            "Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">I
            thought about using Type 22 but the simulation seems rather
            unstable with more
            than on Type 22, and I would like to be able to control the
            operative
            temperature in each thermal zones.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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for
            your help !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
              font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">Héloïse
              Pelen<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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