Dear Tadashi Takakura,<br><br>I have been working on greenhouse models in TRNSYS for a while in a long-term project. <br>Most of the suggestions from forerunners I followed you can find in the archive by following <br>the links provided by Matt. In addition, I wish to add some comments:<br>
<br>I do indeed use two zones in my Type 56 greenhouse model, as you suggest. The zones are <br>separated by a thermal screen/horizontal shade modelled by a window with no glazing (g-value=1). <br>Then you can have an internal shading device on the "window" controlled by an input variable<br>
(shades are usually controlled based on temperature, radiation and humidity level). I think you are <br>fortunate to have TRNSYS 17, as I understand it is better suited than TRNSYS 16 for modelling <br>greenhouses because of a more accurate way of treating solar radiation passing through a zone.<br>
My model is based on TRNSYS 16.<br><br>You will also have to model the air exchange between the two zones. As mentioned in the archive, <br>there are some problems related to CONTAM for air flows through a large horizontal opening. I use a <br>
model equation found in this thesis to calculate the air flow:<br><br>Hendrik Feije de Zwart, 1996: "Analyzing energy-saving potensials in a greenhouse cultivation<br>using a simulation model". PhD. Dissertation, Landbouwuniversiteit, Wageningen.<br>
<br>However, the air flow is too large for TRNSYS to converge when the screen is fully open, so I<br>have to limit it. <br>
<br>Except for the floor, which is defined as a boundary wall, I have no other walls in my greenhouse.<br>All external surfaces have been defined as "additional windows".<br><br>As constant infiltration rate (except when opening windows), I use 1 ACH (by advise from<br>
a greenhouse expert). When opening windows to release heat and humidity, I add this infiltration<br>to the zone which contains the windows (upper in my case). The infiltration rate is calculated<br>by an equation from the above mentioned thesis.<br>
<br>The plants make a substantial contribution to the humidity level in a greenhouse. I have created<br>my own Type for modelling the plants, based on the above mentioned PhD thesis. If you know<br>the approximate water consumption of the plants in the greenhouse you are modelling, you can<br>
always use this to estimate water vapour flow rate into greenhouse air. But then you will of course<br>miss most of the transient behaviour due to changes in radiation and temperature. I connect water<br>vapour flow rate from the plants to Type 56 as a humidity gain. There is also a thermal interaction<br>
between the plants and Type 56, as the canopy temperature normally lies 0.5-1 deg below air <br>temperature when evaporization is taking place and the plants are not exposed to direct sunlight.<br><br>I hope this information has been helpful. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you need further<br>
details. I am also looking forward to possibly sharing experiences about greenhouse modelling.<br><br><br>Best regards,<br>Knut Erik Enerstvedt<br> <br><br>>Dear Tadashi Takakura,<br>
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>I imagine the difficult task for this project would be accurately<br>
>accounting for the humidity in the zones. I have never used the feature,<br>
>but you could perhaps look into the detailed humidity mode for Type56<br>
>building. Again, with the new TRNSYS 3D, you can create an upper and lower<br>
>zone(or ‘airnode’ as the refer to it in TRNBuild) with the ‘Virtual<br>
>Surface’. There is more information in the tutorial and documentation.<br>
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>You can also look at the archives from the TRNSYS Users mailing list. My<br>
>colleague, David, provided much useful information. Greenhouses have been<br>
>discussed a few times. The following are the links to the archives.<br>
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>Best regards,<br>
<br>
>Matt Duffy<br>
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>----- Original Message -----<br>
>From: "Tadashi" <takakura><br>
>Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 20:05<br>
>Subject:[TRNSYS-users] Request<br>
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<br>> We just started to make greenhouse models using TRNSYS17. Probably we<br>
>will select Type 56 building and have two zones, one for upper air space and<br>
>he other zone with plant canopy. Combination with CONTAM would be the next<br>
>step.<br>
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> Any suggestions and comments which can be given by forerunners would be<br>
>very much appreciated.<br>
<br>> Best regards,<br>
<br>
> Tadashi Takakura