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<pre wrap="">Type 56 , active Layers Error</pre>
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How is your geosurf factor set? If it happens to be that the first
segments' geosurf factor is 1 and if it is a small segment, it gets all
the solar radiation and might get that warm.<br>
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That doesn't solve the flow problem of course...<br>
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class="headerdisplayname" style="display: inline;">Van: </div>Philippe Goffin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:goffin@arch.ethz.ch"><goffin@arch.ethz.ch></a></td></tr><tr><td><div
class="headerdisplayname" style="display: inline;">Datum: </div>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:07:28 +0200</td></tr><tr><td><div
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<pre wrap="">Dear all
I'm receiving following error:
Specific fluid mass flow of active layer in surface 5 below minimum value of 10.04 kg/m^2*h. Please increase the minimum mass flow rate or use the autosegmentation feature of ...
I saw that this error was already reported in '08 (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/pipermail/trnsys-users/2008/003947.html">https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/pipermail/trnsys-users/2008/003947.html</a>), but apparently the cause wasn't really known.
Anyway the strange thing is that TrnBuild, in the "Definition Active Layer" says that the "min allowed inlet mass flowrate" is 10.79 kg/h. Trnsys in its error message says 10.04 kg/m^2*h. The real minimal mass flowrate that ever under all possible conditions happens in my simulation is 12 kg/m^2*h, but most time it's 18.75 kg/m^2*h (that's for sure, I did some experiments, outputting the mass flow rate)
So, I decided nevertheless to autosegment it, for fun I created 6 segments by choosing the "desired min. allo. in. mass flowrate" accordingly (e.g. 1 kg/m^2*h). Now the strange thing is that the simulation works for some time after eventually crashing down. But the super strange thing is that my "Entering load temperature (=Tel)" spikes from 25°C to 65°C in the first iteration, e.g. it = i-1, pump is not active, Tel = 20°C, then for it=i the HP goes on, and Tel is 65°C. Without segmenting the active layer it would be 25°C.
As far as I understand, segmenting shouldn't influence the entering load temperature, how and why does it spike this strong in the first iteration and why do I actually get this error ??? Am I getting something completely wrong ?
Thanks for any advice, help.
Philippe
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files (fortan code and some subroutines from the TESS source code file) and
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