Dear all,<br><br> About TRNFLOW: <span><font face="Arial" size="2"> I design a simple air flow Zone, it only has 5 Air Links, one of them is Flow Controller which controls air flow through Window between outside and the Zone. Please tell me: How to design Pollutant Model? It only has CO2 as Pollutant. Especially. about design of the mass balance. CO2 stored, CO2
input, CO2
output</font></span>. If you know, Please tell me step by step in detail! Many thanks!<br><br> Br.<br><br>wang<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/8/10 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu</a>></span><br>
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1. (no subject) (?mit Esiyok)<br>
2. Skyscraper-Energy consumption of the higher levels<br>
(Fr?d?ric Oleksandrow)<br>
3. Re: Atrium simulation (Marion Hiller)<br>
4. Surface condensation (<a href="mailto:thiemann.stefan@vdi.de">thiemann.stefan@vdi.de</a>)<br>
<br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>From: "\"Ümit Esiyok\"" <<a href="mailto:umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de">umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:57:24 +0200<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] (no subject)<br>Dear All,<br>
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I am going to simulate a five -storey high Atrium. The roof is fully<br>
glazed, I divide the atrium into three Zones but from Archives of TRNSYS<br>
mailing list I saw an E-mail from David, says lowest zone receive no solar<br>
radiation. have anyone an experience with Atrium simulation.<br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
<br>
--<br>
Ümit Esiyok<br>
<br>
e-mails: <a href="mailto:umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de">umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de</a><br>
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:06:30 +0000<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Skyscraper-Energy consumption of the higher levels<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL-BE">I’d like to modelize energy consumption for a
skyscraper.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL-BE">I assume that energy consumption is not the same at
the 1st floor than at the 70th floor.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL-BE">How can I take in consideration the wind effects, the
stack effect, …for the 70th floor with trnsys ?</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL-BE">Thanks to anybody who can help me,</span></font></p>
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<br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>From: "Marion Hiller" <<a href="mailto:hiller@transsolar.com">hiller@transsolar.com</a>><br>To: trnsys-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:01:11 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Atrium simulation<br><br>
Ümit,<br>
<br>
For TRNSYS 17, one main focus was the improvement of the simulation of<br>
highly glazed<br>
large spaces such as multi-story atriums with respect to accuracy, user<br>
effort and error-proneness.<br>
<br>
In TRNSYS 17 a zone can have multiple airnodes. The solar (diffuse and<br>
beam) radiation is distributed to all surfaces<br>
of all airnodes of the zone. In addition, for external shading factors<br>
of solar radiation can be<br>
handled automatically. Also, for convex zones the incoming beam<br>
radiation can be distributed automatically<br>
depending on the suns position, the external shading and the zone<br>
geometry.<br>
<br>
In TRNSYS 16 everything has to be done manually. The atrium has to be<br>
divided into three zone separated<br>
by so-called fictive windows in order to allow solar radiation<br>
penetration from one zone to another zone.<br>
Therefore, for each zone GEOSURF factors for beam radiation have to be<br>
defined. There was no control of Diffuse radiation.<br>
After the transmission through the second adjacent window all solar<br>
radiation is treated as diffuse radiation.<br>
Thus, also the lowest zone receives solar radiation but it is<br>
distributed as diffuse radiation.<br>
<br>
For atrium simulation I definitely recommend to use TRNSYS 17.<br>
<br>
Marion<br>
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
Von: "Ümit Esiyok" [mailto:<a href="mailto:umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de">umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de</a>]<br>
Gesendet: Montag, 9. August 2010 20:57<br>
An: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
Betreff: [TRNSYS-users] (no subject)<br>
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Dear All,<br>
<br>
I am going to simulate a five -storey high Atrium. The roof is fully<br>
glazed, I divide the atrium into three Zones but from Archives of TRNSYS<br>
mailing list I saw an E-mail from David, says lowest zone receive no<br>
solar radiation. have anyone an experience with Atrium simulation.<br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
<br>
--<br>
Ümit Esiyok<br>
<br>
e-mails: <a href="mailto:umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de">umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de</a><br>
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<br><br>---------- 已转发邮件 ----------<br>From: <<a href="mailto:thiemann.stefan@vdi.de">thiemann.stefan@vdi.de</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:46:37 +0200<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Surface condensation<br>Hello,<br>
<br>
I have a general queation concerning condensation in Type 56. Does the<br>
inside condensation flag for a wall consider condensation due to low<br>
surface temperature when using an active layer for cooling or is it<br>
the same condensation flag that is used if saturation of the air int<br>
the room is reached?<br>
<br>
Thanks for a short explanation of the condensation model!<br>
<br>
Stefan<br>
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