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<div><br>Thanks a lot in advance! <br> <br>I have some questions about TRNSYS:<br> <br>1. About TRNSYS Building Description File: Where is it? How can i find it?<br> <br>2.About TYPE's Output tab: Why some subjects have Value, some have Value 0? Doesn't it have Value after running? Or basically it has Output Value?<br>
<br>3.Why Ambient Temperature isn't equal to Ventilation Air Temperature?<br> <br>4. What's meaning of "Qequipment (Heat Transfer Rates of Zone Equipment)=-2.00E+04" ?Can it be negative? <br> <br>5. What's meaning of Heat Transfer Rates? What's the relationship between Heat Transfer Rates and Energy Saving or Efficiency? Is it right that the smaller(0 or Negative) the Value of Heat Transfer Rates is, the better the Energy Saving or Efficiency is?<br>
<br>6. Which Type can calculate or compare the energy consumption?<br> <br>7. About the Equation: Whether is it similar to the Fortran Programming or not? How to master the Equation Programming? <br> <br>Br.<br> <br>wang<br>
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<div>Pedro,<br><br>You need to open TRNBuild first in order to open your "project.bui". Otherwise you won't be able to do it.<br><br>Best regards,<br>Mariana<br></div>
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<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Dear Pedro,</font> <br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">I have also found that bug in trnbuild. This only happens when you try to open a file directly in the windows explorer.</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">At least for me, the following sequence works properly:</font> <br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">1. open TRNBUILD</font> <br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">2. Open a file using the Open function/button in trnbuild</font> <br>
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<td><font size="3">[TRNSYS-users] Problem opennig "TRNSYS Building Description File" out of TRNBuild...</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Dear All,</font> <br><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> </font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Tahoma">When I´m trying to open "TRNSYS Building Description File" out of TRNBuild, appear a window with the following message: c:\program not found.</font> <br><font size="2" face="Tahoma">I believe that is a problem of path definition in some place!!!</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Tahoma"> </font> <br><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Anyone knows how can I fix it?</font> <br><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> </font> <br><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Thanks in advance.</font> <br><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Regards,</font> <br>
<font size="2" face="Tahoma">Pedro Gonçalves</font> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hello Pedro,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-GB">I think you should check the path of the “Building description file (*.bui)” in the “External Files” tab of the Type that you are using. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-GB">Hope this help.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Luis J. Claros</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado el:</span></b> viernes, 23 de julio de 2010 19:36<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Para:</span></b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Dear All,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">When I´m trying to open "TRNSYS Building Description File" out of TRNBuild, appear a window with the following message: c:\program not found.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">I believe that is a problem of path definition in some place!!!</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Anyone knows how can I fix it?</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Thanks in advance.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Pedro Gonçalves </span></font></p></div><pre>Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario, y puede contener información confidencial sometida a secreto profesional, o cuya divulgación esté legalmente prohibida. Cualquier opinión en él contenida es exclusiva de su autor y no representa necesariamente la opinión de la empresa. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos nos lo comunique de forma inmediata por esta misma vía y proceda a su eliminación, así como a la de cualquier documento adjunto al mismo. El correo electrónico vía Internet no es seguro y no se puede garantizar que no haya errores ya que puede ser interceptado, modificado, perdido o destruido, o contener virus. Cualquier persona que se ponga en contacto con nosotros por correo electrónico se considerará que asume estos riesgos.<br>
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<br></pre>Hello,<br><br>I think the problem is that Trnsys is based on Fortran and I<br>discovered that it doesnt work properly if there is a space in the<br>path. For example if your files are on the desktop you cant directly<br>
open the file.<br><br>Best, Stefan<br><br><br>-------------<br>Hello Pedro,<br><br>I think you should check the path of the "Building description file<br>(*.bui)" in the "External Files" tab of the Type that you are using.<br>
<br>Hope this help.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Luis J. Claros<br>________________________________<br>De: Pedro Gonçalves [mailto:<a href="mailto:pgoncalves.pt@gmail.com" target="_blank">pgoncalves.pt@gmail.com</a>]<br>Enviado el: viernes, 23 de julio de 2010 19:36<br>
Para: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>Asunto: [TRNSYS-users] Problem opennig "TRNSYS Building Description<br>File" out of TRNBuild...<br><br>Dear All,<br>
<br>When I´m trying to open "TRNSYS Building Description File" out of<br>TRNBuild, appear a window with the following message: c:\program not<br>found.<br>I believe that is a problem of path definition in some place!!!<br>
<br>Anyone knows how can I fix it?<br><br>Thanks in advance.<br>Regards,<br>Pedro Gonçalves<br><br><br><br>Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario, y puede<br>contener información confidencial sometida a secreto profesional, o<br>
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contain a virus. Any user contacting us through e-mails shall be<br>understood to be assuming these risks.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font size="2"><font size="2"><span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear Trnsys Users,<br>
<br>I was wondering if anyone has been trying to simulate a dessicant cooling installation ? Is there any tool very useful in the TESS library (I don't have access to a lot yet, since I could manage without them but who knows ...)<br>
<br>thank you for any feedbacks on that subject,<br><br>Best regards,<br>Julie<br></span></span></font></font>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:23:33 +0100<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] trnsys 3d plugin error<br>
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<p>I have been recieving this error messages whenever I attempted using trynsys 3d plugins. I wish to be helped.</p>
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<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingUtils.rb:18:in `detect_base_face'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:173:in `face_polygon'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:172:in `each'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:172:in `face_polygon'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/Surface.rb:107:in `update_input_object'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/BaseSurface.rb:93:in `update_input_object'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingInterface.rb:219:in `create_from_entity'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/interfaces/DrawingInterface.rb:206:in `new_from_entity'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/observers/SurfaceGroupEntitiesObserver.rb:52:in `onElementAdded'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/observers/SurfaceGroupEntitiesObserver.rb:23:in `initialize'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Trnsys3d/lib/AsynchProc.rb:14:in `call'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/wxSU/lib/wxruby/lib/wx/classes/evthandler.rb:133:in `acquire_handler'</p>
<p>C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/wxSU/lib/wxruby/lib/wx/classes/evthandler.rb:133:in `call'</p>
<p>(eval):960:in `notify'</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mambo D A</span></p></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>TRNSYS-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br>
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