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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>Damien,</SPAN></FONT>
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class=657343808-22072010></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>Window 4002, 4102, 4202 and 4302 differ only in
size.</SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>The window data was created without spectral
data. TRNSYS 16 uses a 2 band model (visual and nonvisual) and
windows created </SPAN></FONT>
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class=657343808-22072010>without spectral data may cause this problem. Windows
with an ID lower than 9999 are included in the library for backwards
compatibility reasons.</SPAN></FONT>
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class=657343808-22072010></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>For solving the problem, you may modify properties of
the window data in your BUI by an editor.</SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>I suggest NOT to edit the BASIC library itself. This
may leed to confusion.</SPAN></FONT>
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class=657343808-22072010></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>For solving the error message TRNSYS calculated a
one band model (solar) only by setting</SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>values for Tvis = Tsol, Rfvis = Rfsol and Rbis = Rbsol
of the window data in the BUI file.</SPAN></FONT>
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class=657343808-22072010></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>Tsol 0.268 0.270 0.263 0.253 0.243 0.223 0.183
0.116 0.042 0.000 0.207<BR>
Abs1 0.327 0.330 0.339 0.345 0.347 0.351 0.367
0.380 0.313 0.001 0.347<BR>
Abs2 0.066 0.066 0.067 0.068 0.070 0.071 0.070
0.064 0.051 0.000 0.067<BR>
Abs3 0.108 0.110 0.112 0.113 0.110 0.107 0.101
0.082 0.041 0.000 0.100<BR>
Abs4
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0<BR>
Abs5
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0<BR>
Abs6
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0<BR>
Rfsol 0.231 0.223 0.220 0.221 0.230 0.247 0.279
0.357 0.554 0.999 0.269<BR>
Rbsol 0.231 0.223 0.220 0.221 0.230 0.247 0.279 0.357
0.554 0.999 0.269<BR>
Tvis 0.625 0.632 0.615 0.595 0.570 0.523 0.425 0.265
0.097 0.000 0.484<BR>
Rfvis 0.137 0.125 0.121 0.125 0.142 0.172 0.226 0.336 0.554
0.999 0.199<BR>
Rbvis 0.137 0.125 0.121 0.125 0.142 0.172 0.226 0.336 0.554 0.999
0.199<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>However, what you want to simulate is window with a
very low conductivity. </SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>You may modify the conductivity of the glas panes
"Cond(W/m2-C ) " for reducing the total u value in
the BUI file.</SPAN></FONT>
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class=657343808-22072010></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>Layer
ID# 9061
9052 9062
0
0
0<BR>
Tir
0.000 0.000
0.000
0
0 0<BR>
Emis
F
0.840 0.840
0.070
0
0 0<BR>
Emis
B
0.070 0.840
0.840
0
0
0<BR>
Thickness(mm)
4.0 4.0
4.0
0
0
0<BR>
Cond(W/m2-C )225.0
225.0 225.0
0
0 0<BR>
Spectral
File None
None None
None None
None</SPAN></FONT>
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class=657343808-22072010></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>Best,</SPAN></FONT>
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class=657343808-22072010></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=657343808-22072010>Marion</SPAN></FONT>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>Von:</B> Damien Palacios
[mailto:pseudomino@rocketmail.com] <BR>
<B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 21. Juli 2010
17:58<BR>
<B>An:</B> David Bradley<BR>
<B>Cc:</B>
trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu<BR>
<B>Betreff:</B> [TRNSYS-users] Re : Problem with
windows lib<BR>
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Yes, <BR>
my TRNSYS version is 16.<BR>
As for the windows ID, all those with an
u-value of 0.4 are causing the same error, in my model : 4002, 4102, 4202,
4302.<BR>
I join the files needed in a .rar.<BR>
Thanks<BR>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De :</SPAN></B> David Bradley
<bradley@tess-inc.com><BR>
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">À
:</SPAN></B> Damien Palacios <pseudomino@rocketmail.com><BR>
<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc :</SPAN></B> trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu<BR>
<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Envoyé le :</SPAN></B> Mer 21 juillet 2010, 16h 37min
37s<BR>
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Objet :</SPAN></B> Re:
[TRNSYS-users] Problem with windows lib<BR>
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Damien,<BR>
Could
you please specify which version of TRNSYS you are using and which window ID you
chose (there are a number of different windows in the win4lib.dat file). Please
also send your *.tpf, *.bui (or *.b17), and *.lst files as well as any others
that would be needed in order to run the
project.<BR>
Best,<BR>
David<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On 7/21/2010 05:36, Damien Palacios
wrote:
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<DIV>Hello,<BR>
<BR>
TRNSYS returns be plenty of these errors in listing result
file :<BR>
<BR>
winlib reader: incorrect selectivity of visual+solar
transmission caused a negative value for nonvisual Transmission Tra_ang_nonvis
= -0.045 for Window-ID 4202 at
an angle of 30 ° Tra_ang_nonvis is set to 0 for this
angle<BR>
<BR>
I use the library<BR>
C:\Program
Files\Trnsys16\Building\Lib\Basic\W4-lib.dat<BR>
<BR>
Actually, I would need a
window with a u-value of 0.1 kJ/h/m²/K , and because there are not such
window, I use the smallest value : 0.4.<BR>
But for each of the windows with
this value, I have the same error.<BR>
<BR>
Can you help me? At least to know
why does this message appears?<BR>
<BR>
Note: the issue is the same if I try in
American\W4-lib.dat, German\W4-lib.dat...<BR>
<BR>
Have a nice
day!<BR>
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