<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">Dear Claire,<br>Please find the data sheet YAZAKI Chiller attached. I am also doing the same but I am new to TRNSYS. I am getting a lot of problem, Is it possible for you to guide me.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>jalo<br><div> </div><br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu" <trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 12, 2009 9:02:54 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:
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digest..."<br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. type 107 data file (claire kazgandjian)<br> 2. Type 557: Different borehole configurations<br> (<a ymailto="mailto:knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no" href="mailto:knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no">knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no</a>)<br> 3. Re: Type 557: Different borehole configurations<br> (<a ymailto="mailto:knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no" href="mailto:knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no">knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no</a>)<br> 4. Re: Type 557: Different borehole configurations (Mathieu Riegger)<br> 5. TRNSYS in Vista and 64 bit systems (John Bisgrove)<br> 6. Re: Type 557: Different borehole configurations (Jeff Thornton)<br><br><br>-----Inline Message Follows-----<br><br>
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Dear trnsys users,<br><br>i'm simulating a solar air conditioning system with a hot water fired absorption chiller "yazaki WFC SC30".<br>Do anyone have data file for this machine ?<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>Claire<br><br><hr>Souhaitez vous « être au bureau sans y être » ? <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.microsoft.com/france/windows/bts/default.mspx">Oui je le veux !</a><br><br>-----Inline Message Follows-----<br><br>
<br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Dear TRNSYS users,</font><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">As I understand, the Type 557
vertical ground heat exchanger models a cylindrical storage volume, where
the boreholes are placed uniformly within this cylinder. But in many cases,
one has a different borehole configuration, for example boreholes placed
on a line or an L-shaped configuration. Does anyone know of a way to simulate
such borehole configurations in TRNSYS? I am particularly interested in
boreholes placed on a line.</font><br><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Thanks and best regards,</font><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Knut Erik Enerstvedt</font>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><span>
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<br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Chun Kwong and Mathieu,</font><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Thank you both for replying. I am, however,
not sure if the superposition borehole model is available for TRNSYS 16,
or who is distributing it.</font><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Best regards,</font><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Knut Erik Enerstvedt</font><br><br><br><br><table width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td width="40%"><font face="sans-serif" size="1"><b>a8304506@graduate.hku.hk</b></font><p><font face="sans-serif" size="1">06/12/2009 02:13 PM</font></p></td><td width="59%"><table width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td><div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">To</font></div></td><td><font face="sans-serif" size="1">knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">cc</font></div></td><td><br></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Subject</font></div></td><td><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 557: Different
borehole configurations</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br><table><tbody><tr valign="top"><td><br></td><td><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><br><font size="2"><tt>Hello, Knut.<br><br>If you want to model a borefield with all the boreholes aligned in a line,<br>Type557 may not be suitable, and you need to use other components. There
is an<br>alternative called superposition borehole model (SBM) available in Trnsys
as<br>far as I know. You may ask your dealer.<br><br>Best Regards<br>LEE, Chun Kwong<br>Division of Building Science and Technology<br>City University of Hong Kong<br><br>Quoting knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no:<br><br>> Dear TRNSYS users,<br>> <br>> As I understand, the Type 557 vertical ground heat exchanger
models a <br>> cylindrical storage volume, where the boreholes are placed uniformly
<br>> within this cylinder. But in many cases, one has a different borehole
<br>> configuration, for example boreholes placed on a line or an L-shaped
<br>> configuration. Does anyone know of a way to simulate such borehole
<br>> configurations in TRNSYS? I am particularly interested in boreholes
placed <br>> on a line.<br>> <br>> <br>> Thanks and best regards,<br>> <br>> Knut Erik Enerstvedt<br>><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><span>> Meld deg p?v緳t nyhetsbrev p?<a target="_blank" href="http://www.niva.no">www.niva.no</a></span><br><br><br><br><br></tt></font><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><span>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="637044212-12062009"><font face="Arial" size="2">Dear Knut Erik Enerstvedt,</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="637044212-12062009"><font face="Arial" size="2">I
would suggest using the SBM model by Per Eskilson. As far as I know this model
allows user-defined borehole configurations.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="637044212-12062009"><font face="Arial" size="2">Best regards,</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="637044212-12062009"><font face="Arial" size="2">Mathieu Riegger</font></span></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>Von:</b> knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no
[mailto:knut.erik.enerstvedt@niva.no] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 12. Juni
2009 13:43<br><b>An:</b> trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu<br><b>Betreff:</b>
[TRNSYS-users] Type 557: Different borehole configurations<br></font><br></div>
<div></div><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Dear TRNSYS
users,</font><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">As I understand, the
Type 557 vertical ground heat exchanger models a cylindrical storage volume,
where the boreholes are placed uniformly within this cylinder. But in many
cases, one has a different borehole configuration, for example boreholes placed
on a line or an L-shaped configuration. Does anyone know of a way to simulate
such borehole configurations in TRNSYS? I am particularly interested in
boreholes placed on a line.</font><br><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Thanks and best regards,</font><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Knut Erik
Enerstvedt</font>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><span>Meld
deg på vårt nyhetsbrev på <a target="_blank" href="http://www.niva.no">www.niva.no</a></span><br><br><br>-----Inline Message Follows-----<br><br>What is the current status for running Trnsys 16 on Vista or 64 bit systems?<br>I loaded and ran the restaurant example on Vista 64 bit. It ran, but it gave<br>a Visual FORTRAN error from gentrn.dll. <br><br>I'm also wondering if anyone has used the Intel FORTRAN compiler to give a<br>good 64 bit version of the program.<br><br>Anyone's experiences with any of these issues would be appreciated.<br><br>Thank you<br><br>John Bisgrove<br>Earth Sensitive Solutions<br>7523 County House Road<br>Auburn, NY 13021<br>(315)253-3779<br><br><br><br><br><br>-----Inline Message Follows-----<br><br><Thank you both for replying. I am, however, not sure if the superposition<br>borehole model is available for TRNSYS 16, or who is distributing it.><br><br>We do distribute the Superposition Borehole Model (SBM) but I can
tell you<br>from experience that it's difficult to use and difficult to set up -<br>especially the first time.... I know that there is a short timestep model<br>that was developed by Cenk Yavuzturk for TRNSYS that allows for many<br>different borehole configurations but I'm not sure if it is publicly<br>available.<br><br>Jeff<br><br><br><br>Jeff Thornton<br>President - TESS, LLC<br><br>22 North Carroll Street - Suite 370<br>Madison WI 53703 USA<br><br>Phone: 608-274-2577<br>Fax: 608-278-1475<br>E-mail: <a ymailto="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com" href="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com">thornton@tess-inc.com</a><br>Web: www.tess-inc.com<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>TRNSYS-users mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu" href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br><a href="https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users"
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