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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dear</span> TNSYS-users,<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>These questions were asked before by Christophe but weren’t
answered. Does anybody got the answer to these questions?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>When defining a new wall, TRNBUILD
calculates a standard U-value determined <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>with combined heat transfer
coefficients of 7.7 W/m²K inside and 25 W/m²K <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>outside (see volume 6 page 23).
These U-values are correct for a vertical <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>wall separating an inside
environnement from an outside environnement, but <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>not for horizontal walls and inside
vertical walls. Does TRNBUILD take <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>these distinctions into account or
does it use these two standard <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>coefficients (7 and 25) for every
wall types ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>A second question in relation with
the first one : combined heat transfer <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>coefficients normally takes into
account superficial convective and <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>radiative heat transfers. So wich
coefficients are used in calculations ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>standard combined coefficients ?
Convective heat transfer coefficients of <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>wall defined in the wall type
manager ? Both ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Met vriendelijke groet, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Jan-Willem van Laer, Assistent Projectleider <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br>
Van: trnsys-users-bounces@engr.wisc.edu
[mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@engr.wisc.edu] Namens mohammad abdunnabi<br>
Verzonden: woensdag 7 maart 2007 13:22<br>
Aan: TRNSYS USER<br>
Onderwerp: [TRNSYS-users] Include statement</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Dear All;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I've used INCLUDE statement in my Trnedit program, however, I have
encoutered some problems and I have some enquiry about it: the first thing that
I have used file (e.g file.inc) opend by Notepad. secondly, in the input file,
I wrote the following statement<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Constants 3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Dr = X1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>TK = X2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>BTA=X3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>where X1,X2 and X3 should be read from the file included in the include
statement (file.inc). and the file.inc has the following shape:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>X1= 0.005<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>X2= 360<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>X3= 45<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>the error statement in the list file is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>The referenced variable used in this equation has not been defined in
the TRNSYS input file. The equation begins with the string in "reported
information"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> Reported information : DR=X1=<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Please, does the procedure I have followed is right or wrong and any
help will be appreciated<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Thanks in advance<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>M. Abdunnabi<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
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