<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Thanks Diego.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">It's a Type which is very important for a lot of engineering department.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Moreover, I have seen I am not alone to wait it.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I think the solution of Christophe (Enertech) is interesting.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">It's similar to a french software called SimSol which have been developped by the C.S.T.B. (distributor of Trnsys in France as you know).</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">This free software is a graphic interface which use Trnsys ! It is used for solar domestic hot water.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">In it, you can define shading masks. So, I ask me if it use the Type67. Is it correct ?</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Because, if it is right, maybe you can use the programmation code of C.S.T.B.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I give you the link to download it : <A href="http://software.cstb.fr/soft/present.asp?langue=fr&m=lpr&context=SimSol&imprimer=&cd">http://software.cstb.fr/soft/present.asp?langue=fr&m=lpr&context=SimSol&imprimer=&cd</A>=.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Message d'origine ----<BR>De : Diego A. Arias <daarias@wisc.edu><BR>À : Fabien Morice <fabien.morice@yahoo.fr><BR>Envoyé le : Lundi, 23 Avril 2007, 21h15mn 50s<BR>Objet : Re: Re : About Shading masks (type 67) and Overhang and wingwalls shading (type 34)<BR><BR>
<DIV>Hi Fabien,<BR><BR>I feel really bad that this bug causes so much trouble. Unfortunately, <BR>the new component will be ready in a year: it is part of a big effort to <BR>make weather data reader, radiation, shading, self-shading and <BR>geometric building information into a single component.<BR><BR>However, I will try to come up with a solution for the current strategy <BR>in the next couple of weeks. If I understand correctly, Type67 is <BR>subtracting a fixed value of view factor. I will keep you posted.<BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Diego<BR><BR>Fabien Morice wrote:<BR>> I suspected it.<BR>> <BR>> Could you tell me when the new type will be available ?<BR>> I'm very interresting for it.<BR>> <BR>> Thanks.<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Message d'origine ----<BR>> De : Diego A. Arias <daarias@wisc.edu><BR>> À : Fabien Morice <fabien.morice@yahoo.fr><BR>> Cc :
trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu<BR>> Envoyé le : Jeudi, 19 Avril 2007, 22h07mn 15s<BR>> Objet : Re: [TRNSYS-users] About Shading masks (type 67) and Overhang <BR>> and wingwalls shading (type 34)<BR>><BR>> Hi Fabien,<BR>><BR>> Thanks for looking into the details of this topic. I am afraid that you<BR>> found a bug. Both components were developed separately over the years,<BR>> and they may not be giving the right results when combined.<BR>> Sorry if this creates inconveniences. We are currently working on<BR>> another solution that will combine both shading sources, overhangs and<BR>> far away objects into a single component.<BR>> Best regards,<BR>><BR>> Diego<BR>><BR>> > Can anyone, have a look on my simulation ?<BR>> ><BR>> > I don't understand the results.<BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> > I try to compare 2 types 34 :<BR>> > -
the first is combined with a type 67 (parameter 1 = 1)<BR>> > - the second is not combined with a type 67 (parameter 1 = 0)<BR>> > See the results.<BR>> > Usually, 0 < FSS < 1 same the second type 67<BR>> > but the first : -1 < FSS < 1 !!!!<BR>> > <BR>> > In more, I try to compare 3 inputs of type 34 in the 2 cases<BR>> > See the results.<BR>> > With a type 67 but no masks (see the ***.dat) I don't have the same<BR>> > result !!!!<BR>> > <BR>> > Thanks.<BR></DIV></DIV><BR></DIV></div><br>
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