[TRNSYS-users] PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION INTO BUILDING WALL

Luis J. Claros luisj.claros at gmail.com
Mon May 31 10:13:57 PDT 2021


Sajid, you can find some information about Type 399 PCM model in my paper:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280096748_Active_and_passive_PCM_walls_simulation_-_a_new_TRNSYS_PCM-Type
.

Hope it helps.

Best regards,

Luis J. Claros-Marfil

El lun, 31 may 2021 a las 17:02, <trnsys-users-request at lists.onebuilding.org>
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>    1. Re: Generating three times more cooling power than necessary,
>       the cooling set temperature doesn't drop (Arian Bahrami)
>    2. Re: PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION INTO
>       BUILDING WALL (Technical Support)
>    3. PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION INTO BUILDING
>       WALL (MEHMOOD Sajid)
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> From: Arian Bahrami <arianbhm at yahoo.com>
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> Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 09:45:45 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Generating three times more cooling power than
> necessary, the cooling set temperature doesn't drop
> It can drop as you said if you have major heat loss for some buildings,
> but not nessasary.
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> Best Regards,
> Arian
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> On Monday, May 31, 2021, 12:42 PM, RUBIO RUBIO, JOSÉ JAVIER via
> TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:
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> Absolutely. I asked it because in previous systems I have developed, the
> set temperature dropped sometimes so now it seems weird to me that
> providing more cooling power the set temperature doesn’t drop. It is clear
> then that the cooling type from TRNBuild only begins to work when
> temperature is higher than the temperature set.
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> Thanks Arian,
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>
> Regards.
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> José Javier Rubio Rubio.
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> *De:* Arian Bahrami <arianbhm at yahoo.com>
> *Enviado el:* lunes, 31 de mayo de 2021 11:37
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> *CC:* RUBIO RUBIO, JOSÉ JAVIER <josejavier.rubio at edu.upct.es>
> *Asunto:* Re: [TRNSYS-users] Generating three times more cooling power
> than necessary, the cooling set temperature doesn't drop
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am not sure what you developed since it seems you don't understand the
> basics. The set points of the cooling are the temperatures that the zone
> Temp should be higher than those set points so the systems starts working.
> You got your required temperature as you set. How do you expect to see less
> temperature while it is working?
>
> Arian
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> On Monday, May 31, 2021, 11:49 AM, RUBIO RUBIO, JOSÉ JAVIER via
> TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:
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> To whom it may help,
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>
>
> I have developed a cooling system with cooling coils to produce the
> cooling power that is needed for the zones of my warehouse. Those cooling
> coils produce three times more cooling power than the different zones of my
> warehouse need. There are four zones which different set temperature: three
> of them with 4 Celsius degrees and the other one with 8 Celsius degrees.
> Despite the fact I generate three times more cooling power than they need,
> why the air temperature of the zones do not drop below their set
> temperature?
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> Thanks in advance,
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> Regards,
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>
> José Javier Rubio Rubio.
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> To: MEHMOOD Sajid <S.Mehmood at ed.ac.uk>
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> Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 10:56:30 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION
> INTO BUILDING WALL
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> Sajid,
>
>  There is a freely available PCM component in TRNLib, an archive of
> user-donated components. The link to the archive is here:
> https://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm and the PCM component
> is in the thermal storage section (Type204). Compiled DLLs are provided but
> they are 32-bit and will therefore only work with the 32-bit version of
> Trnsys18 or Trnsys17.
>
>  As a side note, while the components in TRNLib are provided for free they
> are provided without any technical support and while the authors may have
> done a great job of vetting the components, we have not verified them in
> any way.
>
> best,
>
>  david
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> On 2021-05-25 03:24, MEHMOOD Sajid wrote:
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> Dear All,
>
> I am writing to enquire, is there any free type available in TRNSYS or
> TESS to integrated PCM wall with multizone building (Type 56). i am also
> looking for any document and or working example which explain in detail,
> how to integrate PCM wall with Type56.
>
> thanks,
>
> Best Regards,
> Virk
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> Subject: [TRNSYS-users] PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION
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> Dear All,
>
> I am writing to enquire, is there any free type available in TRNSYS or
> TESS to integrated PCM wall with multizone building (Type 56). i am also
> looking for any document and or working example which explain in detail,
> how to integrate PCM wall with Type56.
>
> thanks,
>
> Best Regards,
> Virk
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
> with registration number SC005336. Is e buidheann carthannais a th’ ann an
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