[TRNSYS-users] The error: TRNSYS message 103

David BRADLEY d.bradley at tess-inc.com
Fri Oct 18 07:16:54 PDT 2013


Hossein,
   One error that can occur is that the storage tank models subtract the 
volume of the heat exchanger from the liquid volume of the tank node to 
which they are assigned. If you have a large heat exchanger and a lot of 
tank nodes such that the volume of the heat exchanger in a node is 
larger than the node volume. Without seeing your simulation I cannot 
confirm whether this is the case and would recommend that you send your 
project to your distributor for assistance.

   For the other problem that you describe (plugin data not being 
transferred correctly). My only advice there would be to make sure that 
the entire path (starting with c:\Trnsys17\...) is specified in the 
External Files tab of your Type531. The problem you are having is that 
the plugin is not correctly finding the file to which it is supposed to 
be reading and writing.
Kind regards,
  David

On 10/17/2013 10:06, Hossein Khosravi Bakhtiari wrote:
>
> Hello every body,
>
> I am modeling an air/water heat pump (type 668 with appropriate data 
> for air on the evaporator side on the properties tab of the proforma) 
> along with a solar thermal collector (type 73). Both of them are 
> connected to a thermal storage tank (type 531 with 3 nodes) via direct 
> connection and an immersed heat exchanger respectively. I received the 
> following 2 errors from TRNSYS:
>
> "TRNSYS Message 103: The TRNSYS TYPE checking routine has found an 
> inconsistency in the specified component between the input file and 
> the information expected by the Type
>
> Reported information: An illegal PARAMETER value has been reported by 
> the model. The model has reported that the parameter 32 (and 33 for 
> the other error) is the problem - but this may not be the case. Please 
> check the component configuration."
>
> I checked the consistency between the size of the heat exchanger, I 
> selected the coiled tube including 1 node completely placed in the 3rd 
> node of the storage tank, and the size of the thermal storage tank 
> node in which the HX is placed and everything was ok. However, I 
> received the error again. Then, I guessed that the problem would be 
> the selected type of the HX.  Thus, I selected the serpentine tube to 
> math the rectangular cross section of the storage tank. It did not 
> work though. Next, I increased the number of nodes for the HX to 2 and 
> considered the half of the length of the tube in 2nd node of the 
> storage tank and the other half in the 3rd node of the storage 
> tank. It did not work either.
>
> There is another problem as well. On the file properties related to 
> type 531, reached after clicking on the magic wand icon, I inserted 
> the desired information and the information was transferred to the 
> external file. When I open the file properties again, the inserted 
> data were not available anymore and they had been replaced by some 
> other random irrelevant data. If I pressed the ok, all that irrelevant 
> data was inserted to the external file! Therefore, I have to eddit the 
> external file itself without the use of the file properties. I have no 
> idea what the problem is?! First, when I was only modeling the 
> air/water heat pump connected to the storage tank, i.e. the number 
> of immersed HX on the file properties was zero, I did not face such 
> problem.
>
> I am sorry that it became a long message. I needed to explain 
> everything in detail.
>
> I would deeply appreciate it if anybody could help me regarding this 
> matter.
>
> BR/
>
> Hossein.
>
>
>
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