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<td>[Trace-users] Specify Window Frame Type</td>
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<td>Wed, 2 Apr 2014 16:17:34 -0500</td>
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<td>Ben Hollon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bhollon@antella-inc.com"><bhollon@antella-inc.com></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Working on a LEED energy model in Trace. I
typically use HAP, which allows the input of a window frame
type, and it then calculates the entire window assembly
U-value and SC, rather than just the glass.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve had LEED reviewers come back and ask
me for my window assembly <span class="SpellE">calcs</span>
and I was able to show how HAP was doing that <span
class="SpellE">calc</span> based on the frame type as well.
However, I can’t find anything similar in Trace, and I’m
getting nervous about how to show assembly calculations to a
LEED reviewer. I’ve had terrible luck in the past getting
assembly values from the manufacturer as well.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I spoke with CDS and they recommended
modeling a small sliver of wall that is representative of the
frame, which seems quite tedious.</p>
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Has anyone either experienced this issue, and figured out a
work around?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!</p>
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