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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The tutorial included with the TRACE
program (look in the Documentation folder) is a good way to get familiar with
the program itself. To specifically use TRACE for energy modeling (rather
than design, which some of its components are geared more for), I’d also
suggest reading the section in the Users Manual on ‘Altering a load
design file for energy analysis’.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>If you’re looking for a text for
general modeling reference, the IBPSA organization recommends some energy
modeling textbooks and other references on its website. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Scott
Hackel</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Energy</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wisconsin</st1:place></st1:State><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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w:st="on">WI</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">53711</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>608.238.8276 x129<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#3366FF'>shackel@ecw.org</span></font></u></st1:PersonName><u><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
trace-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:trace-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Fareed Syed<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 18, 2008
5:01 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Julia Beabout; Jim Pagliaro;
trace-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Trace-users] trane
trace</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am new into the field of energy
modeling. I am doing documentation on my master’s project on energy
modeling of our office building.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I kindly request for giving me some notes
on energy modeling and thermal storage related to TRACE and in general.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
trace-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:trace-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Julia Beabout<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 18, 2008
4:23 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jim Pagliaro;
trace-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Trace-users] trane
trace</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>For cooling: I usually use a setpoint between 72F
and 78F depending on the spaces served with a driftpoint of 85F.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>For heating: I usually use a setpoing between 68F and 72F
depending on the spaces served with a driftpoint of 65F.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>For unconditioned spaces I use a very high cooling set point
(95F or higher) and a very low heating set points (35F or lower....depending on
your weather location) so that the software won't generate any (or very
minimal) loads for these spaces.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I don't believe ASHRAE App G has any specific
thermostat set point requirements. You just need to use something
reasonable and they have to be the same in proposed and baseline models.
A possible exception to this would be if you are using different thermostat
setpoints to simulate the reduced energy associated with an unusual systesm
such as a displacement ventilation system or radiant cooling or
something. There may be some archived info on that approach in the
bldg-sim archives.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hope that helps.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>J<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>----- Original Message
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From: Jim Pagliaro <Jim@celticenergy.com><br>
To: trace-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:25:20 PM<br>
Subject: [Trace-users] trane trace<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>hi,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>i have a question about setting "driftpoints" in
the trace program. i am doing a base case VS actual design scenario model
and i was wondering what anyone normally uses as cooling/heating dry bulb temps
and thermostat driftpoints when they are modeling a scenario based on simple
ASHRAE guidelines.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font>James Pagliaro</b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> Energy Engineer</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> 860.882.1515</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> 860.882.1593 fax</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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