[Trace-users] Existing Building vs New Building (Fareed Syed)

Shariq_Ali at URSCorp.com Shariq_Ali at URSCorp.com
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To: "Stephen Smith" <ssmith at elmengr.com>
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:15:26 -0500
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=3D2><DIV>Stephen,</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I didn't mean to imply there&=
nbsp;is more than one baseline; however there is more than one way to =
approach the question that was asked. I've read the requirements of G1.2, a=
nd section 4 also. I believe the question wasn't about the "Addition" but a=
bout the existing parts of the HVAC system that are to remain "un-touc=
hed." </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>The exception to 6.1.1.3 specifically cal=
ls out relocation of equipment not applying to the standard, along with a f=
ew other cases (which may apply to Fareed's analysis). The 90.1 users guide=
 sheds a bit more light on the exception than the standard itself. If reloc=
ated existing equipment does not apply to the standard, then I don't see wh=
y existing equipment that is not relocated would apply. </DIV><DIV> </=
DIV><DIV>I believe we only disagree in your last statement:</DIV><DIV><FONT=
 size=3D3></FONT> </DIV><DIV>"So through the commutative property of A=
SHRAE logic, <STRONG>the Appendix G baseline applies to existing buildings =
</STRONG>and only to the actual addition or alteration that is being consid=
ered under 90.1."<BR></DIV><DIV>I wouldn't say it applies to the existing b=
uilding - per the exception 6.1.1.3. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>What do yo=
u others think? Anyone dealt with this issue previously? </DIV><DIV> <=
/DIV><DIV>Regards,<BR>Shariq<BR><BR>Shariq Ali EIT, LEED&nbs=
p;AP<BR>Mechanical Engineer<BR>URS Corporation<BR>1375 Eucli=
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