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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was reading all of these emails this
morning and I will admit, I’ve only scanned the Job Tasks Analysis
document. But I think we should all put this in the perspective that this is a
first step in Energy Modeling becoming a profession on its own. If I understand
this correctly, these classifications are used as standard job definitions for
things like the Occupational Outlook Handbook <a href="http://www.bls.gov/oco/">http://www.bls.gov/oco/</a>,
and to gather statistics on energy modeling as a profession, like how many are
there in the country, what is their typical education, salaries for different
levels of experience. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am an energy modeler, much more than an
architect, or a mechanical engineer. I for one am excited that energy modeler
is becoming a stand-alone profession, rather than just a offshoot of one of the
allied professions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There may be flaws in the definition, and
the process, but this kind of marks a coming of age of our field, and I think
that is kind of exciting. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jeff Haberl<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 18, 2011
8:12 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Studer, Daniel; Doug Hittle;
Nick Caton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Kendra Tupper; Building
Simulation; ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Daniel,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>I still don't agree with your process. Your
logic is flawed and most likely so is the document. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>You excluded those organizations that
could/will benefit from your document for no valid reason, and you have
excluded known educators in this field, experts in the field, and other
national labs. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>For the most part this was developed off-line,
out of public review. Hence the results of any such process cannot be trusted
and the document must be regarded as being second rate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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77843..................URL:www.esl.tamu.edu<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
ibpsausa-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [ibpsausa-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
on behalf of Studer, Daniel [Daniel.Studer@nrel.gov]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
11:42 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Studer, Daniel; Doug Hittle;
Nick Caton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Building Simulation; Kendra
Tupper; ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Ibpsausa] [Bldg-sim]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Please note that
this email contains responses to postings by both Mr. Haberl and Mr. Hittle.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Mr. Haberl:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The purpose of each
JTA is to capture the job <u>as currently practiced</u>. Such a baseline
document is essential in order to fairly and objectively identify knowledge and
training gaps that exist between where any industry is and where it
“should” be.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:
black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>As such, we went to
extreme efforts ensure that psychometrically valid sets of SMEs were selected
to define the documents. Besides having to prove that they were current
practitioners in the field, applicants were screened by a psychometrician (not
DOE or NREL) using criteria such as geographic location, years of experience,
and industry credentials to ensure that the selected group was <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>broad</span></b> with respect to all of these criteria
(this is outlined in slightly more detail in the JTAs themselves). Bias in any
one of these areas (experienced folks over novices, people from the east coast
vs. the southwest, etc.) would have favored a particular group and skewed the
resulting document in favor of that particular group’s thinking. Since we
were attempting to adequately capture the job as practiced in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region> (not as practiced by experts in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region>, or by academics in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region>, or how it should be done according to
organization X, etc.), we wanted the broadest <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> representation possible. This
is also why there were no international participants.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Clearly, the
inclusion of any professional society or organization directly involved in the
development of such a document would also skew, whether meaning to or not, the
resulting document toward the viewpoint of said organization. Indeed, to
prevent this from happening, no outside reference materials were allowed into
the workshops. Thus, the material presented in the JTAs comes directly from the
first-hand knowledge of the participants. <u>The resulting JTAs were all created
by practitioners detailing what it was they did in their jobs.</u></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I believe that the <st1:City
w:st="on">Boulder</st1:City> meeting you mentioned was the BEM Innovation
Summit, which was hosted by RMI in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Boulder</st1:place></st1:City>
last spring. The following is from PDF page 36 (document page 32) of the post
summit report (http://rmi.org/Content/Files/BEM_Report_FINAL.pdf):</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>“Additionally,
the DOE is currently sponsoring a project to develop (1) job task analyses
(JTAs), which identify and catalog all of the activities a worker performs in a
given job; and (2) the knowledge, skills, and abilities (KSAs), which define
the minimum requirements necessary to adequately perform those tasks, for six
building job categories, including “energy modeler”. The project
goal is to create “national guidelines” which will define a common
body of knowledge that any training organization will be able to draw from when
developing curriculum, helping to ensure consistent core competencies among
training programs.”</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>An action item
identified in that same report (PDF page 38) reads: “Respond to
Doe’s RFP to develop “national guidelines” for energy
modeling education.”</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Mr. Hittle,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Congratulations on
your recent retirement; that is one of my near-term goals (to be accompanied by
a private island though).</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I believe that you
may not have seen my previous email to Nick Caton, which I believe (again,
opinion) may answer most of the questions you pose. If not, please feel free to
let me know and I will do my best to answer them. Like I said in my last email,
this thread is getting a little fragmented.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>However, I can
answer one of the questions you pose here. The Federal Register notice released
by DOE (<a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2011-10-14/pdf/2011-26645.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2011-10-14/pdf/2011-26645.pdf</a>)
details the means by which they will accept public comment. While email is one
of those means, said email must be sent to a specific email address and
accompanied by a signed copy (there are other, less burdensome ways to submit
comments as well). So in response to your question, no, this correspondence
will not be officially documented as comments received on the documents.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks all for the
lively discussion!</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Danny</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Studer, Daniel<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
9:32 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Doug Hittle; Nick Caton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Roth, Amir (HQ); Kendra
Tupper; Building Simulation; ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>All,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Apologies for the
confusion. I had been responding previously only to the Bldg-sim listserv, as
opposed to both the Bldg-sim and IBSPA-USA listservs. Below is my response
earlier this evening to Nick Caton’s email inquiry (again, sent only to
the Bldg-sim listserv). Also, since things seemed to be quickly fragmenting, I
have attempted to paste below all emails on this topic, so that everyone can
easily reference them. I will follow up to the two most recent emails in a
separate posting so that others may follow the conversation more easily.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Danny</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Previous email sent
to the Bldg-sim listerv <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>only</span></b>:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Studer, Daniel<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
6:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Nick Caton; Doug Hittle; Roth,
Amir (HQ)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Kendra Tupper; Building
Simulation<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Nick,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Your concerns are
entirely understandable, but perhaps a little overstated. The intention with
this project was to produce documents that could be used by the corresponding
sectors to improve existing, or if necessary, create new,
training/certification materials, thus leading to a more qualified and
effective workforce. If you take a look at the job categories we targeted, I
think you will see that we focused on jobs that have a direct impact on
commercial building energy use.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The development of
specific training/certification materials however, is being left up to the
training/certification providers in each industry. Our goal was to eliminate
the heavy lift for such organizations by facilitating the identification (by
industry, not by DOE or NREL) of what tasks were required in each job category,
and what knowledge, skills, and abilities were required to perform each of
those tasks. The idea is that organizations who have existing
training/certification programs can self-compare their program to the developed
JTA to determine if they are adequately meeting industry’s needs. Or, for
industries where few training/certification programs exist, organizations could
use the developed JTAs to immediately start developing curricula (the DACUM
method is often used to create curricula at the community college level). <u>Through
these mechanisms, the idea was to improve the quality and amount of training
available to the end-user (in this case, the modeler), with the ultimate goal
being a reduction in real energy use at the building level.</u></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Additionally, the
JTAs can be used as a standardized metric of sorts to evaluate existing
training/certification programs. We are currently working on a tool that will
allow an end-user in each of the six fields to examine what content different
training/certification programs cover, using the JTAs as a baseline (so that
folks are comparing apples to apples, instead of apples to oranges). <u>That
way, they can make a more informed decision about where to invest their time
and money when pursuing professional development activities.</u></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I do know that GSA
is planning to utilize the JTAs to support efforts related to the Federal
Buildings Personnel Training Act of 2010. What other items (new
licensure/certification/PDH requirements for government/military contracted
work, etc.) will come out of this work I cannot speak to, as those decisions
are likely to be out of my control and should they arise, will likely be made
within each corresponding organization, far from my purview.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I know this is
another long response, and that I did not directly address several of your
questions. However, I felt that clarifying the project purpose would actually
eliminate the need for such answers. If you feel differently let me know and
I’ll try to go through and provide more specifics.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Danny</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'> hittle.doug@gmail.com [mailto:hittle.doug@gmail.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Doug Hittle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
9:00 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Nick Caton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Studer, Daniel; Roth, Amir
(HQ); Building Simulation; ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org; Kendra Tupper<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>My apologies
Daniel, I suddenly realized that I am so old as to be before your time. I was
project manager on the BLAST energy analysis program and my colleague and
thesis adviser, Curt Pedersen was head of the BLAST support office and one of
the project managers of EnergyPlus. We both have been very active in ASHRAE
Technical Committee 4.7, Energy Calculations and 4.1 Load Calculation.
I recently retired from <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Colorado</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">State</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
where I taught HVAC design including energy modeling (BLAST, EnergyPlus via
DesignBuilder, TRACE, TRANSIS, etc.). I feel fortunate that a number of our
former students are now your colleagues at NREL. <br>
<br>
As you no doubt know, the words "certification" and "licensure
exam" (see your clarifying email) are loaded phrases in the consulting
engineering community. While most practitioners support professional
engineering exams and licensing, requirements for additional, new certification
are not likely to be widely embraced, at least not until they can be shown to
have some economic or other value. Furthermore, it may not be enough for
cognizant organizations to be aware of your JTA work. Groups like NCEES and
ASHRAE have to be early proponents of any certification or licensing program
that might result from your project. Otherwise Republicans and Tea Partiers
will claim that you are proposing more intrusive, job-killing government
regulations (be clear, <b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>I</span></i></b>
am NOT expressing this opinion). <br>
<br>
Aside from the (probably) uncontroversial goals of guiding training and
education, and helping with job descriptions, what are the project goals and
expected outcomes. Are the results to be used to create an industry standard
(like standard 90)? Are parts of the work to be incorporated into building
codes? Do you hope to create a Professional Engineering Exam for Energy
Modeling? Perhaps the answer is "all of the above." The JTA report is
vague about this, perhaps intentionally. <br>
<br>
Just exactly why are you and your team doing this work? Who are its proponents?
What are the hoped-for impacts? Who will be affected in the long run? I am not
trying to be critical by asking these questions but without the answers it is
hard to review the report. <br>
<br>
Lastly, many energy modelers have a personal mantra that is not listed in your
report: "It helps to know what you are doing!" If I were hiring that
would be the main qualification.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Doug Hittle<br>
<br>
PS Can we all assume that these email exchanges will be considered as
qualifying comments on the report as requested by Dr. Roth?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'> Jeff Haberl [mailto:jhaberl@tamu.edu] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
8:58 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jason Kirkpatrick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Studer, Daniel; Doug Hittle;
Roth, Amir (HQ); Building Simulation; ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>O.K.</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>So much for me reading my email...in fact, I
did indeed get this but did nothing.</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>However, even though there was an email about
this, there was no discussion about this at the June IBPSA-USA
meeting, nor was there a request for this to be put on the agenda at the June
ASHRAE meeting for TC 4.7, Standard 140, or other committees of interest. In addition,
Charles Eley has held several conference calls (some of which I've attended),
which have discussed COMNet, yet this was not mentioned on any of the calls I
attended.</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>In addition, such documents like this, if they
are coordinated with ASHRAE, will usually be sent to RAC then to the TCs for
comment, back to RAC and then back to DOE.</span></font><font size=1
color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Finally, if this effort was truly important to
DOE, why are there no other participants from the other National Labs? Why is
NREL the only lab with expertise in this area? Or for that matter, why are
there no individuals from outside the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>? Or even <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region>?
Seems fishy. </span></font><font size=1 color=black><span style='font-size:
9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Somehow, I still don't get a warm,
friendly feeling about this.</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Jeff</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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8=) :=') 8=)8=?<br>
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Jeff S. Haberl, Ph.D.,P.E., FASHRAE..............jhaberl@tamu.edu<br>
<br>
Professor............................................................Office Ph:
979-845-6507<br>
<br>
Department of Architecture.............................Lab Ph:979-845-6065<br>
<br>
Energy Systems Laboratory.............................FAX: 979-862-2457<br>
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w:st="on">A&M</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.....................................77843-3581<br>
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<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">College Station</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Texas</st1:State>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place>,
77843..................URL:www.esl.tamu.edu<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> Jason Kirkpatrick
[jason.alan.kirkpatrick@gmail.com]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
9:29 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jeff Haberl<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Studer, Daniel; Doug Hittle;
Roth, Amir (HQ); Building Simulation; ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Jeff,<br>
<br>
The following went out on the Bldg-sim listserve in March 2011.<br>
<br>
Also, the IBPSA Wiki known as BEMBook is mostly empty. Maybe there's another
one that I am unaware of?<br>
<br>
Jason Kirkpatrick<br>
<br>
Building Performance Analyst<br>
Skidmore Owings & Merrill<br>
Phone: 415-352-3811<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
<br>
<br>
<st1:place w:st="on">Opportunity</st1:place> Announcement<br>
<br>
The National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) is currently<br>
sponsoring a project to develop (1) job task analyses (<span class=il>JTAs</span>),
which<br>
identify and catalog all of the activities a worker performs in a<br>
given job; and (2) the knowledge, skills, and abilities (KSAs), which<br>
define the minimum requirements necessary for a person to adequately<br>
perform those tasks, for the following six commercial building job<br>
categories:<br>
<br>
- Energy modeler<br>
- Operating engineer/building technician<br>
- Building energy auditor<br>
- Energy/sustainability manager<br>
- Commissioning/retro- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>commissioning practitioner<br>
- Facility manager<br>
<br>
The project goal is to create "national guidelines" which will define<br>
a common body of knowledge that any training organization will be able<br>
to draw from when developing curriculum, helping to bring the core<br>
competencies imparted by training organizations to their trainees into<br>
common alignment. This body of knowledge will also be used by the<br>
General Services Administration and the Department of Energy to help<br>
meet the requirements of the Federal Buildings Personnel Training Act<br>
of 2010.<br>
<br>
To facilitate development of the <span class=il>JTAs</span>/KSAs, Professional
Testing,<br>
Inc. is seeking current industry practitioners who are interested in<br>
helping to define, promote energy efficiency in, and support their<br>
field of practice by participating in these JTA/KSA development<br>
workshops. Interested individuals are invited to submit their<br>
credentials at <a href="http://proftesting.rapidinsites.com/" target="_blank">http://proftesting.rapidinsites.com</a>.
Please note that<br>
each JTA/KSA workshop will take place in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Denver</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">Colorado</st1:State></st1:place> and is<br>
anticipated to last 3 full days (not including travel). Reimbursement<br>
for travel costs up to a fixed amount and a travel per diem will be<br>
awarded to individuals selected for participation. Additional project<br>
details, including how practitioners will be selected and where to<br>
direct project-related questions, can be found using the above link.<br>
<br>
NREL and Professional Testing, Inc. are excited to present this unique<br>
opportunity for individuals to have their voices heard in this<br>
important discussion. Thank you for your time.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
The NREL Commercial Workforce Development Team<br>
_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'> Jeff Haberl [mailto:jhaberl@tamu.edu] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
8:10 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Studer, Daniel; Doug Hittle;
Roth, Amir (HQ)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Building Simulation;
ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Daniel.</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>I'm afraid I can't agree that you conducted
"extensive outreach" to prepare this document. For example, there was
no discussion of this, before it happened, on any of the list servers before it
came out. In addition, there was no "call for experts" that I was
aware of. Normally, for a document like this that is sponsored by DOE, one
would expect a call of some sort through the usual list servers.</span></font><font
size=1 color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>In addition, I noticed from your list, that
there is nobody who directly represents IBPSA-USA, nor even ASHRAE TC 4.7,
which is the responsible ASHRAE TC for energy modeling. Although there are
several individuals on the list who attend IBPSA and ASHRAE meetings and are
well-known. It seems like little was done to notify others in IBPSA-USA or
ASHRAE.</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>You should know that IBPSA-USA has also worked
for some time on such an effort, which now exists as a wiki, under Joe
Deringer's guidance. It also held a workshop in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Boulder</st1:place></st1:City>, and developed the BEM exam with
ASHRAE. Yet, I see no reference to this or any of the previous efforts,
nor efforts made to contact those of us who worked on this. </span></font><font
size=1 color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Finally, there are also at least a dozen or
more educators within IBPSA-USA who teach Energy Modeling at the University
level, yet not one of these individuals is mentioned in your list of
contributors, only one academic appears on your list.</span></font><font
size=1 color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Hence, I suggest that if DOE is serious
about making this a consensus document, then it needs to do a better job
contacting the relevant organizations to obtain input and not rely on an
email response after the fact.</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Clearly, this is not the case with this
document.</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Jeff</span></font><font size=1 color=black><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>8=! 8=) :=) 8=)
;=) 8=) 8=( 8=) 8=() 8=) 8=|
8=) :=') 8=)8=?<br>
<br>
Jeff S. Haberl, Ph.D.,P.E., FASHRAE..............jhaberl@tamu.edu<br>
<br>
Professor............................................................Office Ph:
979-845-6507<br>
<br>
Department of Architecture.............................Lab Ph:979-845-6065<br>
<br>
Energy Systems Laboratory.............................FAX: 979-862-2457<br>
<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Texas</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">A&M</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.....................................77843-3581<br>
<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">College Station</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Texas</st1:State>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place>,
77843..................URL:www.esl.tamu.edu<br>
<br>
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color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'>On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Nick Caton <<a
href="mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com" target="_blank">ncaton@smithboucher.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Daniel, </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thank you so much for this
clarification! I have to sympathize with Mr. Hittle in that, despite the
apparent efforts to “spread the word,” I too feel somewhat unsure
of what the real implications will be for myself and my colleagues in the
energy modeling world.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>My current impression is that the
results of this study will ultimately manifest as some sort of new
licensure/certification/PDH requirements for modeling services in future LEED
and/or military/government contracted work (i.e. DoD/GSA
contracts)… does that sound right?</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Maybe an illustration would be
helpful… This is from the comment document:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>“JTA is traditionally used by
secondary and postsecondary educators, test developers, and business, industry,
government, and military trainers to help identify core knowledge areas,
critical work functions, and skills that are common across a representative
sampling of current practitioners.”</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Can you provide an example of what
JTA’s have accomplished for those working in the above industries? </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>For better or for worse, my concern is
this study is going to add additional layers of beauracracy to the job
description… Great news (enforced business) for those in the
licensing/training industries I suppose, but will there be a net benefit for
the actual practitioners? Are my concerns unrealistic or missing the
point?</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks again for your time and efforts!</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>~Nick</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=119 height=37
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 color="#2d4d5e" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#2D4D5E;font-weight:bold'>NICK CATON, P.E.</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Studer, Daniel<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
3:56 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Doug Hittle; Roth, Amir (HQ)</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Building Simulation; <a
href="mailto:ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">ibpsausa@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Mr. Hittle,</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>My name is Daniel Studer and I am an
engineer at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory. I also happen to be the
project lead for DOE’s commercial job/task analysis development work.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I can assure you that we have conducted
extensive outreach to ensure that persons who operate in the spaces targeted by
these JTAs are fully aware of the work being performed, including ASHRAE.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The energy modeler JTA itself was created
over the course of three days by eleven practicing energy modelers who were
guided through the process by a professional psychometrician. The names and
associated organizations of each of these folks are listed at the back of the
JTA, in case you are curious. <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>DOE and NREL
had zero input into the content of this document.</span></b> And to ensure that
the document is truly reflective of the industry, DOE has decided to make the
documents available for public comment. That way, individuals such as yourself
can provide DOE with constructive feedback to ensure that the document content
is both appropriate and valid.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The intent of the project, as stated on
the project website, is to:</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Provide a
basis for developing and comparing new and existing training programs in the
commercial building sector. This will help individuals identify opportunities
to enhance their professional skills, enable industry to identify an
appropriately skilled workforce, and allow training providers to ensure that
they are providing the highest quality product possible.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>In short, we are trying to document the
job as it currently exists so that training/certification providers can ensure
that they are providing high quality products in line with industry’s
identified needs. Additionally, gathering this information using the objective
approach that we have also has the side benefit of creating a sort of baseline
document that can be used to help a training/certification end user better
understand how their current skill set and existing training/certification
options fit together.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I totally agree with you that items
identified such as “time management skills” are not very
measurable, and in fact seem both excessive and irrelevant, in the context of
developing a training program or certification around this material. However,
such information is very valuable in other contexts, which is why it is
included in any JTA which utilizes the “developing a curriculum”
(DACUM) method. The idea is that all aspects of the job should be documented so
that the resultant analysis can be used for multiple purposes. For example, an
individual wishing to develop a job posting may look at the JTA and include
items such as “time management skills” or “spatial
skills” in the job posting. They could then structure interview questions
to better understand that person’s abilities in those areas to make a
more informed decision about a candidate.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>In other JTAs that were developed under
this project, SMEs also identified physical attributes necessary to perform the
job (e.g., lift X lbs over head, see X feet). While these may also seem silly,
they become very important when developing high risk assessments, such as
licensure exams, in these spaces.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The real meat of each document is the
DACUM chart located at the back of each. These charts identify the specific
domain areas, tasks, and steps that the SMEs identified were necessary to
perform the specified job. It is this content specifically that is of most use
to training/certification providers, which is why DOE asked for comments on
this specific chart in the Federal Register notice.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The proposed content blueprint tables
(located near the front of each document), contain the SME’s proposed
weights for how often, and how important, each of the identified tasks is to
the job. Such weights provide valuable context to training/certification
providers by serving as guidelines for how much time should be devoted to each
topic.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>As part of this project, NREL will be
facilitating a “survey validation” which will provide industry with
the opportunity to adjust these weighting factors. However, to avoid the
confusion that would occur with two “comment periods” occurring at
once, this will not happen until DOE’s public comment closes at the end
of November.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Please feel free to contact me if you
have any additional questions.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span></font><font color=black><span
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Danny</span></font><font color=black><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Doug Hittle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 17, 2011
1:17 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Roth, Amir (HQ)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Building Simulation; <a
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [Ibpsausa]
DOE Job Task Analysis for Energy Modelers: Open for public comment until Nov.
28th</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I would like
to be grandfathered in please. Who is scrutinizing this document (proposed
regulation?) at ASHRAE headquarters? Have you had any input from ASHRAE?<br>
<br>
If you were to do a jta for President of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region> it might not be so
lengthy as the one for building energy modelers. (And, a lot of folks in the
current primary would be automatically excluded). Is it possible that we have
the cart before the horse? Perhaps we need a jta for building architects and
building design engineers of which energy modelers could be a subset. I
am sure that if DOE proposed a regulatory test procedure for architects and
engineers there would be plenty of comment. <br>
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I've looked at the document. What caught my attentions was the list of
"skills and abilities." These included such thing as "time
management skills," "critical thinking," and "spatial
skills." Assuming that the goal is to define <b><i><span
style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>measurable</span></i></b> skills, we
might want to give energy modeler want-a-be s the SAT again. <br>
<br>
Then I saw "common sense" and "patience" as skills and
abilities. Now, not withstanding the jta, I consider myself a competent modeler
of buildings and their energy systems. We don't need to vote on that but I also
am reasonably sure that "patience" has only recently kicked in as a
personal skill (maybe I am being optimistic). How are we going to measure the
"common sense" of someone who wants to apply to be an energy modeler?<br>
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Dr. Roth, it is not clear that very many in the building sciences field are
aware of your project, its history, and potential impact. Perhaps you could get
on the agenda at an upcoming ASHRAE meeting and explain the process and your
intent for the project outcomes.<br>
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Respectfully,<br>
Doug Hittle<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Roth,
Amir <<a href="mailto:Amir.Roth@ee.doe.gov" target="_blank">Amir.Roth@ee.doe.gov</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Apologies for cross-posting,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:black'>The DOE has put together a job task analysis (JTA)--job
description plus required knowledge and skills--for building energy
modelers. The draft document, created by a group of 15 energy modeling
professionals, can be found here: </span></font><font size=1 color=black><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:black'><a
href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial_initiative/pdfs/energy_modeler_jta_comment.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial_initiative/pdfs/energy_modeler_jta_comment.pdf</a>
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<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:black'>DOE is accepting comments on this draft until November 28, 2011 at
this URL: <a href="http://www.nrel.gov/ap/buildings_workforce_feedback/"
target="_blank">http://www.nrel.gov/ap/buildings_workforce_feedback/</a>. Very
few comments have been received so far. I urge you to review and comment on
this draft as the final document will provide the foundation for future
education, training and certification programs and will likely have to be
complied with going forward by existing programs, e.g., ASHRAE BEMP. In
addition to constructive critique, positive comments, e.g., "perfect,
don't change a thing", are also welcome.</span></font><font size=1
color=black><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=1 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-Amir<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>============<br>
Amir Roth, PhD <br>
Building Performance Simulation Tools, US DOE/EERE <br>
Ph: <a href="tel:202.287.1694" target="_blank">202.287.1694</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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