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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">HI,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes you should show the cooling load, it will impact savings slightly as you increase both baseline and proposed by the same amount in kwh. Modeling
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Khaled Fouda [mailto:KFouda@nrg-concepts.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 15, 2016 7:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew J. Baron <mbaron@wendelcompanies.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: HVAC System 5 (VAV) - No Cooling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's for LEED submission for 8 stories building (160,000 sf) in Manhattan, NY. I initially modeled the baseline building using system 1 because the main usage of the building is residential (100,000 sf) then the Leed reviewer asked me
to use the exception you mention since the nonresidential spaces (church &retail) are larger than 20,000 sf. In this case I'm using system 5 for these spaces.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm just wondering if modeling the only heated zones as heated & cooled means that we should show the cooling load?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: "Matthew J. Baron" <<a href="mailto:mbaron@wendelcompanies.com">mbaron@wendelcompanies.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: RE: HVAC System 5 (VAV) - No Cooling <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Let me start off by saying I may not be what you consider an “expert” but have completed several submissions to LEED over the past few years, and
I am assuming that is why you are modeling this building. Without knowing the square footage it is hard to determine if that is the correct baseline system. There are exception to the baseline systems that may be beneficial for you to entertain, G3.1.1 has
the list. There are specific requirements outlined for the baseline cooling systems that must be followed, G3.1.3 which includes an air temp reset schedule. You must also remember that whatever you chose to model for cooling in the baseline must be modeled
identically for the proposed system if the space is not cooled.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Hap-users [<a href="mailto:hap-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:hap-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Khaled Fouda<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 14, 2016 6:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hap-users@onebuilding.org">hap-users@onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Hap-users] HVAC System 5 (VAV) - No Cooling</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">I am modeling a parking garage and some MEP spaces that are serving a church and retail areas so I am using system 5. The parking garage and the MEP spaces are only
heated but per ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix G I have to model the spaces being cooled too; here what I did and I would like if I get some confirmation from some experts on this method;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">1- Under System Components: I unchecked the Schedule (J-D) for the Central Cooling Data</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">2- Under Zone Components: I changed the Cooling T-setpoints to be so high (ex 90) to avoid any cooling.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Beside that; would you recommend lowering the "Supply Temp." for the Central Cooling Data to the lowest possible input (35)? It would make more sense to push it
all the way up (Max would be 1F less than Cooling T-setpoint; 89F in my situation).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Any input would be highly appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Khaled Fouda</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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