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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Jordan <phil.jordan@clearesult.com>; Nicholas CATON <Nicholas.Caton@se.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Under Floor Air Distribution (UFAD) system & Heat Pump Chiller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Thanks for your detailed reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydpe5ee17byiv3774800381ydpa0617c8yiv3809172524msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Heatpump chillers with UFAD is the system type of the very first building energy simulation model I was ever tasked
 with building.  Suffice to say, like most first efforts in life, that was probably the worst model I ever built$B!D(B but I sure learned a lot and the challenges of modeling that system arrangement stuck with me!  I haven$B!G(Bt been actively practicing eQuest for a
 while, but I think I can offer a leg up in this instance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydpe5ee17byiv3774800381ydpa0617c8yiv3809172524msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">The EDR guidelines Phil extracted/shared will probably forever stand as a useful and appropriate resource to reference
 for bridging/informing approach for energy simulation in DOE2.  It specifically addresses UFAD from an general/office occupancy perspective. Today, I draw this distinction only to point out if you are dealing with a
<u>data center</u>, the best approach with modern DOE2.3 may look a little different than typical/office scenarios.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydpe5ee17byiv3774800381ydpa0617c8yiv3809172524msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Also I$B!G(Bd add for context that the EDR guidelines were published chronologically before ASHRAE Standard 62.1 made
 some substantial advancements/developments in addressing thermal displacement ventilation.  I would treat the specific guidance within that EDR document as a $B!H(Bfoundation$B!I(B to be considered, understood, then tweaked to align with your present-day system designers$B!G(B
 considerations, calculations, and decisions around ventilation delivery.  By way of example, you can go further than suggested/prescribed by the EDR document to not only re-appropriate thermal loads, but to also create new/dedicated under-ceiling $B!H(Binterstitial$B!I(B
 plenum zones (with air walls) to better simulate a situation where you can assert buoyancy effects will be in play (as opposed to perfect mixing).  I$B!G(Bve taken those lessons learned and applied to simulations of other spaces without UFAD and deliberate TDV
 such as auditoriums, atriums, and ice hockey rinks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydpe5ee17byiv3774800381ydpa0617c8yiv3809172524msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">That said, you are also asking about heat pump chillers.  In DOE2 terms (semantics), if I$B!G(Bm correctly guessing
 the real-world equipment is 2-pipe (there$B!G(Bs a hydronic loop delivering either chilled or hot water to a single coil), then in DOE2.3 terms I think you might be happy with a CHILLER of TYPE = HEAT-PUMP and CONDENSER-TYPE = AIR-COOLED.  I$B!G(Bd suggest review/reference
 at Volume 2: Dictionary > HVAC Components > CHILLER > Air-to-Water Heat-Pump (HEAT-PUMP, AIR-COOLED).   Be mindful the number of air-side systems which can attach to a circulation loop of type 2-PIPE are limited and that probably merits separate consideration
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 to define post-wizards$B!D(B I$B!G(Bm not certain this sort of chiller arrangement is something the wizards can set up for you however, so you may need to do what I did and create the associated loop/pump/chiller manually (after wizards):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Jordan via Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 2:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmad Fraij <<a href="mailto:fraij@yahoo.com">fraij@yahoo.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Under Floor Air Distribution (UFAD) system & Heat Pump Chiller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Energy Design Resources</a> that discusses how to model underfloor air distribution in eQUEST (attached – I extracted this from a larger document to reduce the filesize); I believe this guidance is from 2006 but hopefully it still holds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ahmad Fraij via Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fraij via Equest-users <<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Modeling Under Floor Air Distribution (UFAD) system & Heat Pump Chiller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydpe5ee17byiv3774800381ydpa0617c8yiv3809172524msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I am modeling a building, which has Under Floor Air Distribution (UFAD) system so, how to model this system in eQUEST
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 we can model heat pump chiller in eQUEST software? How can we assign the same heat pump chiller for both the chilled water loop and the hot water loop?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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