<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#274e13"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Brian,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Thank you so much for
helping me to understand the process. I truly appreciate your time and effort.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
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<span style="line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,102,0)">LEED AP BD+C, GGP<font size="2" style="font-weight:bold"> </font></span><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:58 AM Brian Fountain <<a href="mailto:Brian.Fountain@sa-footprint.com">Brian.Fountain@sa-footprint.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">There is a fundamental difference in the definition of a “secondary” loop between eQUEST and ASHRAE 90.1.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">In ASHRAE and customarily, a primary-secondary loop configuration involves one set of pumps for the chiller (or boiler) and a second set to pump through the building.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Image from <a href="http://pumpsandsystems.com" target="_blank">pumpsandsystems.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">This can be primary-secondary can accomplished in eQUEST with a
<i>single</i> circulation loop by adding pumps to the chiller as well as to the chilled water circulation loop.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">In the wizard:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Which results in this configuration in the detailed interface. CHW Loop Pump is the secondary loop pump while Chlr1 … Pump is the primary loop pump.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The primary pumps can also be defined and added to the chiller in the detailed interface under the Loop Attachments tab.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If only the circulation loop pumps<b> or
</b>the pumps as a child to the chiller are defined you have a primary system. if both the circulation loop pumps
<b>and</b> the chiller child pumps are defined in eQUEST then you have a primary-secondary loop configuration. So – to meet the primary-secondary configuration required by ASHRAE you need only define chiller pumps and chilled water loop pumps.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">By contrast, you can add subloops within eQUEST. These subloops allow you to separate loads or carry loads at different temperatures. For example, often we
will put snow melting on a separate heating subloop so that load can easily and explicitly be called out. Unfortunately, these subloops are termed ‘secondary’ loops in eQUEST which seems to me to be creating the confusion. The initial message suggests a
chilled water subloop was created with no loads on it. That triggered the message that eQUEST could not size the subloop. My recommendation is to remove the subloop and ensure that chilled water loop pumps and chiller pumps have both been defined.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Morteza Kasmai via Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> December 7, 2020 3:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Secondary Chilled Water Loop has zero design flow<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">Thank you for your suggestion.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">Regarding Appendix G requirements
</span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">(G3.1.3.10) I was wondering if I should select
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">the Secondary Chilled Water Loop for all the chilled water cooling coils (AHUs).</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">appreciate</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"> hearing your thoughts on this.
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Senior Architect</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 12:01 AM <<a href="mailto:equest-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Equest-users Digest, Vol 153, Issue 3<br>
Hi Morteza,<br>
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There is no system under "Secondary Chilled Water Loop" in your energy model.<br>
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Selecting the "Secondary Chilled Water Loop" for a chiller water<br>
cooling system will fix the problem. Or you can delete the "Secondary<br>
Chilled Water Loop" to fix it.<br>
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Danny<br>
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> Dear all,<br>
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> I would appreciate it if you would provide your thoughts/suggestions on the issue that I have with zero design flow in the secondary chilled water loop, as described in the email below.<br>
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> Regards,<br>
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> Morteza Kasmaei<br>
> Senior Architect<br>
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> LEED AP BD+C, GGP<br>
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>> Subject: [Equest-users] Secondary Chilled Water Loop has zero design flow<br>
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>> Dear eQUEST experts,<br>
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>> Attached are pd2 and inp files of the model that was built with eQUEST 3-65 7175 DOE 2.2.<br>
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>> Although the secondary chilled water loop complies with G3.1.10&11 requirements, when I run the model encounter the following error. Could you please let me know what I’m missing?<br>
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>> ***ERROR************************************************************<br>
>> Loop: Secondary Chilled Wate Loop has zero design flow.<br>
>> Check input for consistency, or specify design loads.<br>
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>> ****** FATAL DESIGN ERRORS IN SYSTEMS ******<br>
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>> Thank you for your time.<br>
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