<div dir="ltr">Thanks Joe!<br><br>Your participation prompts me to ask the question that is at the heart of this discussion - it looks like an attempt to "reverse engineer" a definition. We have all done it. FYI - and it's a massive but educational time pit. Does anyone [Joe] know the programmed definition for eQUEST, [probably from DOE2] on unmet hours?<br><i>i.e DOE2 will mark an Unmet hour if a zone is: Outside the throttling range? How many degrees outside range (.1, 1 etc)? Plus Occupied? Plus Coil capacities are exceeded? Plus Any other conditions?</i><br><br>Agreed about the hourly reports. The hourly one for eQUEST that I use is under thermal zone for the "amount of load that's unmet" for an hour. Include the zone temperature that hour and that should get you what you want (but possibly not what you need). There is probably an unmet hours flag to enable (0 or 1), but I might be thinking of the wrong software package? I try not to look at individual unmet hours for spaces - the space/zone is usually not the actual problem.<br><br>A few notables from the images sent:<br><ul><li>Fans are running over 7500 hours per year. I doubt the building is occupied that many hours.</li><li>Schedule seems to be a default schedule from the wizard? Defaults like this are often unoccupied on weekends and 12 hours per day.</li><li>That would be around 3000 occupied hours.</li><li>Similar default schedules allow 82 degrees for unoccupied hours --> Possibly >5500 hours requiring 85 to be outside the throttling range, and they are unoccupied</li></ul><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Bob<br><br><a href="http://Energy-models.com" target="_blank">Energy-models.com</a><br><a href="http://Simulate.Energy" target="_blank">Simulate.Energy</a></div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img alt="" style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aaW5mb0BlbmVyZ3ktbW9kZWxzLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=31e55d6b-c99e-46ff-8e24-96eb6ec2a044"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">ᐧ</font></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 3:40 PM Joe Huang via Equest-users <<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Paul, others,</p>
<p>Being an old DOE-2 user, I would recommend getting the hourly
reports for zone temperature, setpoint temperature, and cooling
load, and then aggregating these by hour of day and month, i.e.,
get 12 average hourly profiles by month, which would tell you
what's going on. I don't know if there's an hourly report variable
for unmet load, but it should be detectable as hours where the
zone temperature exceeds the setpoint temperature. I know how to
set up hourly reports in DOE-2, but don't know how can be done in
eQUEST.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Paul,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The <span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">75 °F input that you
shared below for “Indoor Design Temperature” is the
DESIGN-COOL-T which is used for sizing calculations (and is
optional when using DOE-2.3). The hourly thermostat setpoint
is part of the thermostat schedule so you need to look at
the day schedules within the S1 Sys1 (PSZ) Cool Sch.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 23, 2019 2:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Eldridge
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Hourly space
temperature after cooling<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hi
David,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Thanks for the
answer. I don´t think that explain the data because the
system is working most of the time during the year, and a
note in the SS-O report shows that the temperature counts
are made only for the hours when the fans are on. The
cooling schedule matches with the occupancy schedule.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">The set point is 75
°F and the throttle range is 2 °R.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">The BEPS report shows
that are 155 unmet hours, but the SS-O report gives a
value of at least 2505 (adding from 80-85 and above 85).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> David Eldridge <<a href="mailto:DEldridge@grummanbutkus.com" target="_blank">DEldridge@grummanbutkus.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 22, 2019 9:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Integral Mechanical Engineering Designs<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Hourly space temperatura after cooling</span>
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<p class="gmail-m_6304813575628337139gmail-m_1866183690012848749xmsonormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">That SS-O
report should be after cooling (it’s a “system” report),
but it may include some hours when the control system is
in setback – it’s not only for occupied hours, would
that explain your data?</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-m_6304813575628337139gmail-m_1866183690012848749xmsonormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">There is a
separate module for report variables that you can
specify to document any number of internal calculations,
including one or more space temperatures – it’s been a
while since I set one of those up but if you search this
community for “report variables” some instructions
should pop up.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-m_6304813575628337139gmail-m_1866183690012848749xmsonormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">These can
then also be exported to excel, or printed in the *.sim
report.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 22, 2019 8:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Hourly space
temperatura after cooling<span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-CA">Hi
all,</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-CA"> </span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-CA">If
I open the BEPS Building Energy Performance, there are
155 unmet hours. I would like to get the temperature
values throughout the year after cooling, but the only
related option that I can see is the SS-O Space
Temperature Summary where the temperatures above the
set point are much more than the unmet hours. It seems
that is the report of the space before cooling.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-CA"> </span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-CA">How
could I get the space temperature after cooling to
have relation with the unmet hours?</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-CA"> </span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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