Hi Dave<div id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_1544054808685"><br></div><div id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_1544054808854">I am not in front of my eQuest computer. But I think the spandrel has the u value of glazing without a shading coefficient, so would it not then be opaque. Makes no sense to me for glazing to be in a wall parametric library. I also think it is 1/4 inch, so I would add another spandrel wall and board insulation behind it.</div><div id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_1544055053855"><br></div><div id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_1544055053999">We need another Engineering Manual written !!<br id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_1544054796322"><br><div id="ymail_android_signature"><a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div> <br> <blockquote style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <div style="font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; color:#6D00F6;"> <div>On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:59 PM, David Eldridge</div><div><DEldridge@grummanbutkus.com> wrote:</div> </div> <div style="padding: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div id="yiv0991509060"><style>#yiv0991509060 #yiv0991509060 --
 
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Paul – to answer your question: painfully? It may not be that bad actually – what’s your base wall type? For a curtain wall that is half spandrel and half vision
 glass, make the exterior opaque surface equivalent to the spandrel sections as a defined opaque wall construction, and then add the vision glass to that – if you change the surface constructions in spreadsheet view it may not be that painful after all. The
 painful part will be deleting all of the current spandrel sections that are now defined as the base wall.</span></p> 
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">JRA – I’m not sure of the purpose of the spandrel glass type in the library, I don’t know if that window object model has the capability to perform as if it were
 an opaque surface although this spandrel glass definition may be available to be selected…I’m not sure it would be an accurate choice. I wonder if it is a research entry that isn’t meant for the modeling public. Anyone used it?</span></p> 
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Aulbach via Equest-users<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 05, 2018 5:39 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Paul Diglio <paul.diglio@sbcglobal.net>; Paul Diglio via Equest-users <equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org>; equest-users@onebuilding.org<br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Spandrel Glass</span></p> 
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal">As I recall there IS a wall component called spandex glass in the Library. See if that solves your need.</p> 
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Roboto;color:#6D00F6;">On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:33 PM, Paul Diglio via Equest-users</span></p> 
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Roboto;color:#6D00F6;"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:</span></p> 
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">I have a building with a very large amount of spandrel glass panels, which I modeled as glass since this seemed to be the only way to insert the panels
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">I would somehow like to re-assign the spandrel panels as another exterior component so they will be counted as part of the exterior walls in the LV-D
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Any idea on how this can be done?</span></p> 
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Thank you,</span></p> 
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<p class="yiv0991509060MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="">Paul Diglio<br clear="none">
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