<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5497"><span>Hi David:</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5576"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5546"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5545">Yes, for LEED, no problem because it will be a system type 6, VAV with FPB and electric heat. I was inquiring regarding the utility program here in CT, which requires that the baseline systems be of the same type (WSHP) of the proposed systems using 90.1 minimum equipment efficiencies.<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5582"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5545"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5588"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5545">Obviously they will make that decision, I was just curious on what everyone had to say if the baseline system capacity exceeded tables 6.8.1.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5630"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5545"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5629"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5545">Thank you,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5544"> </div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5516">Paul Diglio<br>87 Fairmont Avenue <br>New Haven, CT 06513 <br><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5628" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5627"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5626"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5625"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5624" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5623" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David Eldridge <DEldridge@grummanbutkus.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com>; "equest-users@onebuilding.org" <equest-users@onebuilding.org>; Paul Diglio <paul.diglio@sbcglobal.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:11 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] WSHP Capacity Greater Than 90.1 Table 6.8.1<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5661"><br><div id="yiv1916182878"><style type="text/css">#yiv1916182878 #yiv1916182878 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv1916182878 </style><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537289806727_5660">
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<div style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">What's the system mapping for the building type and size? The baseline may not even have WSHP, or the mapping should yield a smaller system selection that does apply somewhere in the 6.8 tables.</div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com><br clear="none">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 17, 2018 1:23 PM<br clear="none">
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I’d fall back to 6.4.1.1 under the mandatory provisions for the prescriptive compliance path – that’s the section citing the 6.8 series tables for the purpose of establishing prescriptive compliance. As I’m reading/interpreting, equipment that is not listed
categorically within the 6.8-series tables by extension does not need to achieve any minimum performance rating. There is however some complementary text there you’ll want to review carefully to see if anything applies to your situation.</div>
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<div class="yiv1916182878x_yiv7758473049MsoNormal">One extra thought: Is it possible you’re dealing with a 60-ton WSHP
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<div class="yiv1916182878x_yiv7758473049MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I am looking at a project based on 90.1-2010. The capacity of the WSHPs are 60 tons. 90.1-2010 Table 6.8.1B does not list the minimum efficiency of WSHP over 135,000
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